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The Orbx team with their new Peopleflow II, The possibilities are endless. Imagine flying over low The Masai Mara/Serengeti and seeing Lions and wildebeest or being on an aircraft carrier Nimitz and having people run around the deck preparing for your launch.
Or having Air hostesses on the being able to see air hostesses, pilots & passengers boarding planes.
Next thing you know the people will be interactive(no not clickable ). Like if you are landing at TNCM the people on Maho Beach duck Just a simple animation. I think these would greatly add to the experience. As Computers get more powerful and cheaper these things may be possible to do within fsx 8-).
I know that this is a [glow=yellow,2,300]Flight[/glow]simulation and some people may not agree and I also don't want fsx turning into the Sims but then this is a forum and the whole point is to reason and bring out your points. I like imagining and thinking that in 2-10 years these will be possible to do and the [glow=yellow,2,300]COMMUNITY[/glow] will do them.
I'd also like to hear your imaginations.
more info on the people flow 2

That's why I think FSX will keep going, and going, and going.  Faster computers and videocards are the key.  As far as animated people and things, more better. Ican imagine someone savy enough creating People and animal oriented "AI" addons, like "the Great Migration" of wildlife in Africa. Imagine flying over the African savannas and watching the wildebeast scatter! Or some "adventures", like a rescue mission to a small private island where the attractions of a biological amusement park have run amuck and are busy eating the few remaining tourists, unless you get to the tourists first.. (cue Jurassic Park music)

Exactly. And Now that they've announced No community work, Alex has continued his models, Other developers are now in overdrive to show off technology in fsx and Just basically Stuff it in M$'s face and Shove it down the "flight" Team's throat .
I really cannot wait to see where fsx will be in 2 years 8-)

The problem for me, regarding FSX, is that unless I am prepared to throw zillions of pounds at all my hardware, it will never run as satisfactory or as smoothly as my FS 2004 with all my setting set to maximum.
Unless MS recode FSX to make it more efficient, etc, we will suffer even greater problems in the future with with forthcoming massive improvements to the scenery, objects, effects, etc, over the years, seriously affecting all our hardware..!
FSX devastates my various hardware upgrades, and causes disappointments every time!
Unless all those sliders can be wound up to the max in FSX, I am wasting my time with FSX!
Its such a shame!

In FSX, the vast difference between the Flight Sim and our Computer Hardware is constantly out of step!

Paul...FS 2004..FS Navigator... ...!

Much to my surprise I've never had a problem running FSX on my inexpensive low-end system. OK, it's not on maxed settings but neither is FS9. I'm quite happy with FSX & there's a lot of life left in it. I don't understand what all the fuss is about. I suppose it depends on what you expect from it.

I will be keeping my "FSX" and NOT going with the new FLIGHT after what I've seen so far, I really didn't see much improvement in the way of scenery or the scenery's building structures - looks more like a Video X-Box game or playstation from what I've seen and the fact Flight Simmers will NOT be able to add on' any Aircraft or scenery from other sites such as this or the other flight sim web sites , really  says NO-WAY to me stick with FSX !  So, what I've done with my FSX Gold Acceleration the last year - Thanks to ALL of you on these forums who take the time to write and provide information - I've taken my FSX Gold edition and hopefully "AMPED" it up / Enhanced it more than what I had by getting a way better Graphics / Video card upgrading my "RAM / Memory" ( I now sport 12 Gigs / Ram ) - ( 2 Gig AMD Graphics card) - ( Quadcore AMD Processor) Iused to have NVidea years ago , but thought I'd try AMD for grins and so far knock on wood - I really quite amazed at how the graphics show up good and the Rendering , clouds, sky & water.  So some of you know I managed to do these upgrades at a reasonable cost  improving my RAM and video graphics card for under 450.00 and I installed everything myself !!!  I am amazed at how the prices of memory RAM has really went down price wise thru out the years , back in 2005 I remember when I upgraded my computer to a full Gig of ram from 256 and those 2 sticks of RAM 512 each cost me about $170.00 back then , years ago , and that was only for 2 sticks of 512 ?  TODAY you can go way beyond that if your motherboard will let you and your other hardware - I would have givin anything to have just 6 gigs of RAM back in 2005 and who'd known today that i'd be lucky enough to have 12 gigs of RAM and FSX Gold edition.  I have way too many FREEWARE & PAYWARE Add On's to just get rid of FSX fot the new FLIGHT and then all the time it'd take to set it up and adjust and tweak everything to make it work - also I've probably got at least 70% of my Aircraft CFG files edited & tweaked , and a few CFG guage files too - now all that took a lotta time , months worth of work not to mention the abundance amount of time I've spent Researching and sifting & browsing thru every single FLIGHT Simulator web site you could name , and some some of you have never heard of - just to get some well designed and engineered Aircraft that not only Fly good, but look good as well , there have been times I've found myself on Flight Sim web sites searching & browsing for over 12 hours a day,, pulling some of the greatest & neatest looking Aircraft out there to test out in my Flight Simulator - for every 10 Aircraft out there that I download , about 1/2 of them make it into my Simulator - the other 1/2 that didn't make it, had technical issues or Graphical issues and they got kicked out - or - they just weren't Quite up to be what they were Claimed to be in the description of the title !!  I will say most are really decent Aircraft and it takes a lotta time to design and put together any of these aircraft and paint them to get them ready for us flight simmers to use in our flight simulators - to ALL you Aircraft & scenery designers "KEEP UP the Great Work" keep on going I love all your aircraft even the ones that cause a few problems and don't work and get kicked out of my sim, its still great fun to try to fix whats wrong and play Aircraft mechanic , and truthfully its a great hobby and it keeps me at home and out of the way I used to be WILD & CRAZY and hangin around all the Stripper / Go-Go joint - Topless Clubs, which I seemed to live at for years ,, it seems like.  Naw , I'll be keeping FSX Gold edition for many years to come - I keep ALL my Aircraft backed up on CD Disks - so far over 870 aircraft are saved on Disk in my virtual Hanger, which is really a Shelf on the wall catagorized - listed according to what type of Aircraft - Props - Jets - expermental - Military etc.  most are FSX and some are FS2004.  I even started a YOU TUBE channel to post good quality video's , right now I'm in the midst of making a Military Airshow Video with hundreds of Military Aircraft flying around and its taking a lot of time it'll probably be a 10 part Video , I have a lotta video editing to do but it will be up soon I'll post a link when its done - till then keep flying & designing painting aircraft & scenery and lets keep FSX kickin Azz cause it Rocks !!!!! the Jetranger

Unless MS recode FSX to make it more efficient, etc, we will suffer even greater problems in the future with with forthcoming massive improvements to the scenery, objects, effects, etc, over the years, seriously affecting all our hardware..!

Forget it. As soon they'll have their new planes game up and running, they'll want nothing to do with FSX as well. They'll answer to your pleas with an arrogant "why are you wasting your time with such an old software, buy our new GAME" and that'll be it.

A saint of a private coder, or coders team, who'd be hypothetically, in his/her/their spare time, able to give FSX the stability it lacks at the moment (and a boost of performances beside... but I reckon I'm daydreaming), far away from M$'s hands, would perhaps make FSX a worthy alternative... but I'm speaking of hazy possibilities... that's why personally I'm still sticking with FS9. :-/

FSX devastates my various hardware upgrades, and causes disappointments every time!

You should, for exposition completeness, expound what your disappointments are. My main one is the lack of stability. Buy the hardware that allows you to run FSX maxed out with the finest detail textures into three numbers FPS, it remains as stable as a plane whose tail has come apart in flight.

Not quite and not yet flight simulator material.

Hey dont forget that Lockheed Martin's Prepar3d basically works through FSX, and that they have already made many improvements to FSX. The improvements will only get better to fully take advantage of what FSX has to offer.

Here is my take, in short. FS9 requires a disc running in the tray, but FSX requires that you validate with a Key number and through a Microsoft site so you can use the full uninterupted version. All MS would have to do to shut down FSX is close down its validation site and stop taking phone calls that concern validation. Through attrition, one by one, our motherboards need replacing or we need a new machine FSX could basically be gone in 4 years. The only people left with FSX would be pirates who break the validation process. With 'Flight' the shutdown would be even quicker.

I say this with the title of this thread in mind..

Here is my take, in short. FS9 requires a disc running in the tray, but FSX requires that you validate with a Key number and through a Microsoft site so you can use the full uninterupted version.

Here's how I see it. These were both efforts to combat software piracy. Not particularly successful so MS has taken a different approach with Flight by providing the basic software free of charge & charging for addons only available via the Windows Live! platform. It remains to be seen how effective this will be.

Microsoft is after all in business to make a profit & not particularly bothered about the FS community which is a comparatively small customer base. The idea of withdrawing support for FSX seems rather a drastic measure & I'm not sure it will come to that.

Here is my take, in short. FS9 requires a disc running in the tray, but FSX requires that you validate with a Key number and through a Microsoft site so you can use the full uninterupted version.

Here's how I see it. These were both efforts to combat software piracy. Not particularly successful so MS has taken a different approach with Flight by providing the basic software free of charge & charging for addons only available via the Windows Live! platform. It remains to be seen how effective this will be.

Microsoft is after all in business to make a profit & not particularly bothered about the FS community which is a comparatively small customer base. The idea of withdrawing support for FSX seems rather a drastic measure & I'm not sure it will come to that.

I don't see MS abandoning FSX in the near future, but if and when they do, FS9 could hypothetically outlast FSX. I think. Only time will tell.

In FSX, the vast difference between the Flight Sim and our Computer Hardware is constantly out of step!

Paul...FS 2004..FS Navigator... ...!

Is FSX out of step with the hardware?

I suspect FSX in it's original format runs very well on modern PC's, probably delivering good performance with the most of the sliders pretty much maxed......for me good performance would be a smooth flight experience at about 25 fps.

From my perspective it seems that the addons with obsessive textures and detail + the desire to run at silly frame rates with masses of traffic is what b*ggers it all up.

........so perhaps it's not FSX that stresses the hardware, maybe it's the developers. Maybe the addons will always be several steps ahead of any current rig.

I must admit, that overall, comparing my FS 2004 with my FSX, there is no doubt that with my present Hardware, my FS 2004 runs much smoother, and is much more "enjoyable" at maximum settings, than my FSX with much reduced settings generating an inferior overall experience.
My FSX will only be really acceptable with a massive upgrade in hardware, both Motherboard, PSU, Processor, and Video card!
..in other words, a new, very expensive Computer!

Want v Need!. ...!

FSX for me, is in the distant future!

Paul.... ...!

one question hat is OrbX?
and what is Prepare3d?

easy words please