How do I use waypoints/airways?

[michaelb15]

I dont know how to use waypoints or airways for navigation..

I have VORS and NDBs down pat, and can use those blind folded.. but when it comes to waypoints and airways the only way I can figure out how to use those is to whip out the GPS and fly that way.

So whats the deal with those?

Thanks guys 

[fourbee]

what you do is set up a flight plan. then you can select High Altitude Flight Plan or Low Altitude Flight Plan and either of these will find you a route using the airways.

[michaelb15]

what you do is set up a flight plan. then you can select High Altitude Flight Plan or Low Altitude Flight Plan and either of these will find you a route using the airways.

Ok thankyou, but that is about as much as I know about it..

WHat I dont know is how to actually use those nav points whilst flying.

How do I use those points for navigation? How do I set the autopilot to register those turn points, as there is no landmarks (VORS, ADF or anything) to mark the turnpoint.. the only way I can fly it is to just guess where the turnpoint is, and when flying at 500 mph even just being a minute late can take me 15-20 miles away from the actual turnpoint.. DOing that 10 times in a flight could leave me hundreds of miles away from my intended destination.

so my question is how do navigate these airways accurately?

[Brett_Henderson]

Go to skyvector.com ,

[fourbee]

OR you switch your nav hold to GPS and select nav hold and your sorted! Couldn't be much simpler. once its set up the autopilot flies the waypoints. all you have to worry about is the altitude.

[Capt.Propwash]

OR you switch your nav hold to GPS and select nav hold and your sorted! Couldn't be much simpler. once its set up the autopilot flies the waypoints. all you have to worry about is the altitude.

wrong again, set the Altitude at the desired setting and press the ALT Hold button on the panel.  Now all you have to worry about is speed, but if you flight the AT (autothrottle) and set the speed numbers and press the IAS HOLD button, ... now autopilot takes care of that too.

the only real things you have to worry about are ATC and do you have enough fuel to get you where you want to go.

[Brett_Henderson]

OR you switch your nav hold to GPS and select nav hold and your sorted! Couldn't be much simpler. once its set up the autopilot flies the waypoints. all you have to worry about is the altitude.

I think the OP was looking for ways to not use the GPS..

As for the autopilot.. it will hold a dialed in VOR radial, but only via NAV/VOR 1  ..  so if you use NAV/VOR 2 to show when you're near/on the next radial.. you'll then have to dial that into NAV/VOR 1,   and so on..

[michaelb15]

OR you switch your nav hold to GPS and select nav hold and your sorted! Couldn't be much simpler. once its set up the autopilot flies the waypoints. all you have to worry about is the altitude.

I think the OP was looking for ways to not use the GPS..

As for the autopilot.. it will hold a dialed in VOR radial, but only via NAV/VOR 1

[Sir Puma]

When I'm flying VOR-VOR I pay attention to the flight plan and the headings for each VOR. As I get within a couple miles of a VOR point I'll set my heading bug to the current heading, change from NAV to HDG on the auto pilot, switch NAV1 to the new frequency and change the NAV heading indicator to the appropriate heading in my plan. As I cross the VOR point the NAV1 indicator will move till I'm on target and as I get real close I then switch autopilot from HDG to NAV and head off to the new VOR.

This does not work with the way points that lay between VOR points. Sometimes when setting up a flight plan on airways it will make turns that are not on VOR points but on other way points. This really only works with the GPS, BUT if you know the headings and the distance from or to the VOR points you can use the HDG setting and the DME to fly those legs.

Old school nav was fly a heading from a certain point at a certain altitude at a certain speed for a certain period of time. Then you had to figure in wind speed and direction.

I remember my flight instructor/family friend always had a slide ruler and a series of compasses and measuring tools in his flight bag along with all his sectionals. He was a math professor and loved doing things the old way when he wasn't flying by view. I don't recall him ever using auto pilot or ever setting his NAV radios. He would set COM1 to the frequency of where we were flying from and COM2 to the destination and almost never took it above ~8K AGL. Heck, usually we never broke 5K AGL.

[Brett_Henderson]

Remember.. that you can fly a complex, airway-based course, never actually reaching a VOR.

Say there's no VOR at your departure airport, and none at the arrival airport.. and the straightest, airway-based course between the two, starts by intercepting and tracking radial, and then intersecting another radial, well befor reaching the VOR, and so on.

Now of course, on