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In the olden days I still used the default ATC and saw a small Piper or Cessna in front of me about to land, to avoid the default idiots in the virtual ATC ask my B747 to go around, I would simply enter the date and time menu and press OK. This simple maneuver would force the sim to recalculate the AI, leaving the glideslope free for my Jumbo to land.

In the olden days I still used the default ATC and saw a small Piper or Cessna in front of me about to land, to avoid the default idiots in the virtual ATC ask my B747 to go around, I would simply enter the date and time menu and press OK. This simple maneuver would force the sim to recalculate the AI, leaving the glideslope free for my Jumbo to land.

correct me if im wrong but doing that would still cause the ATC to send you on the go-around

Nope. Given that between your big iron and the runway there's one or more way slower and too close interloper, enter the date and time menu and without making ANY changing press OK, the sim will interpret this like a changing of time anyway and will recalculate ALL AI, freeing the way between your plane and the runway previously occupied by that (those) troublemaker(s).

If you do this BEFORE the ATC calls for your head for go around, you're always given clearance to land.

Oldest trick in the rack. 8-)

In the olden days I still used the default ATC and saw a small Piper or Cessna in front of me about to land, to avoid the default idiots in the virtual ATC ask my B747 to go around, I would simply enter the date and time menu and press OK. This simple maneuver would force the sim to recalculate the AI, leaving the glideslope free for my Jumbo to land.

correct me if im wrong but doing that would still cause the ATC to send you on the go-around

Nope. Given that between your big iron and the runway there's one or more way slower and too close interloper, enter the date and time menu and without making ANY changing press OK, the sim will interpret this like a changing of time anyway and will recalculate ALL AI, freeing the way between your plane and the runway previously occupied by that (those) troublemaker(s).

If you do this BEFORE the ATC calls for your head for go around, you're always given clearance to land.

Oldest trick in the rack. 8-)

More than a few times I've dropped it in over departing traffic only to have them climbout over me if I fail to clear in time........or worse if I trajically fail to clear in time.

More than a few times I've dropped it in over departing traffic only to have them climbout over me if I fail to clear in time........or worse if I trajically fail to clear in time.

There's a way to avoid this, and is to adopt the same hard-nosed tactics and strategies the AI planes use showing no mercy on anyone.

Think about it... if you collide against an AI, what does it happen?

If your plane has the damage active and its model allows for it, it will lose some part of itself (the default C172 will sometimes lose a whole wing) and while you cry bitter tears... the AI goes away completely unscathed. :-?

The tearing of a wing, to worsen everything, happens even if the collision happened at a speed that barely a dent would have resulted... but the cursed AI ALWAYS gest away scot-free...

This bespeaks of low quality collision routines that hold a catastrophic bias towards the AI, and so undeserving to be active, under my humble point of view.

Enter your realism menu and enhance the realism of your sim astronomically DEACTIVATING all collisions. On maybe on a better engineered software they might have been worthy keeping alive... but on what we DO have... not really... and USE YOUR INTELLIGENCE and judgment to understand if and when you have struck something, and the force with which you did, and take a fair decision on the question if your plane would would still be still able to fly or not and your simulated status among the virtually still living beings as well.

On my approach to KMDW today about 300 feet from touchdown after a 4 hour flight, ATC tells me to go around for another aircraft that's landing. Where was the aircraft in the air? NOWHERE TO BE FOUND!....

What do you do?!

I would normally go around but a few days ago, I was finishing a flight and ATC told me to follow so and so in. He was a big guy, not sure type but was moving much faster than my Saratoga and was way ahead of me. So I lined up, got nice and straight and was making a beautiful approach and I noticed he had stopped on the runway. Nice distance out, more than enough time for him to move. Getting closer, he's still sitting. Get to the fence and I get the go around. Not in this lifetime, I hit it dead center and lay on the brakes. I think this bird's engines were actually sucking me in but I stopped behind him. He was sitting at a taxiway doing who knows what up there. I drove around him and hit the taxiway to parking. ATC reamed me but they didn't say anything to the guy out there doing who knows what. But still, normally, I would go around.

Well, seen the relative positions his engines would have (in real world) blown you away, not sucked in, and you finally aired the worst part about ATC at last. If someone else screws up, the fault is yours and you must get the hell out of the <expletive deleted>, if you do not, then they try and rip you a new one (and personally, the last times I was using that ATC I answered back in the most colorful way that I dare not detail here under the fear of real censure... just a shame they could not hear me)... but only to you. The source of the problem was on his own turf in doing what he was doing. ::)

A little too biased, those bastards in the simulated tower, if you ask me...

Default ATC is a catastrophic heap of manure, and I have the sneaking suspicion that M$ dares not touch it, and justifies this indolence with the presence of free online ATC services, just because they KNOW the actual Artificial Idiocy Intelligence routine cannot get any better and they would have to redo everything from the start to get something the way it really should be... and the sole thought of all the work that would mean, and all the golf matches they would have to cancel or never even begin to contemplate starting would be so depressing... better sell for new a AI routine that dates back to FS2000 and [shoddily] retouched there and there to look new... like a car cheaply repaired after a crash and then hastily sold away under the excuse it's not necessary anymore.

If this were real-life or say, VATSIM, I'd go around.