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Is it the plane tha plan or the pilot? I think it's the latter. Help a noob

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:49 am
by gregj
Hey all, Noob here.......

I d/l the McDonnell Douglas Package http://simviation.com/1/browse-Civil+Jets-55-0?mark=36476#36476 and have found it to be slightly frustrating at least for me....with respect to ILS process.

I am not sure if I am doing something wrong but would really appreciate someones insight. First off, I have a preset IFR loaded for YVR (Vancouver International) and want to fly a shot hop to Comox AFB.

So my ILS process is as follows:

1) File the plan
2) (map has been used to get the Nav1 and HDG settings)
3) Flight Director on
4) Insert info into Nav 1 e.g. 111.70 - make active
5) insert heading into crs or hdg e.g. 117
6) take off...obviously through ATC
7) gain altitude, turn on AP - now here is where I start getting all messed up. A) Plane doesn't cooperate - seems to fly to it's own accord i.e. Altitude is too high or too low and turns too steeply.
8) I have managed to get other planes to track appropriately but can never get them to approach the GS correctly despite activating GPS to NAV - when I have received the morse code signal.

So to answer any other questions you may have, before kindly telling me that my piloting skills are best left to piloting a submarine, which most planes become when I try to complete ILS) I have followed youtube guides, the ILS guide on FSForums etc..

I must be missing something. I have a dumb sub question too: when ATC says altimeter 3009 or something like that and then asks for a read back......and it is given, is there something else I should be doing.

Observation: the MD 80-81 sounds are excellent I really can hear the nuances that the real planes make - especially on takeoff and rotation.   (my uncle was President of this company for many years s I would like to be able to capture a video of this plane, a flight and send it to him - he would love it) I don't think he would appreciate a roller coaster flight when it's calm and sunny out -  :D

Help a Noob out......

Re: Is it the plane tha plan or the pilot? I think it's the latter. Help a noob

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:53 pm
by Capt.Propwash
if your AP panel has it, once you are established hear the morse code, and are at the correct altitude to intercept the glide slope.... ~3000ft AGL @  5nm out, try hitting the BCS (Back Course) button.

Re: Is it the plane tha plan or the pilot? I think it's the latter. Help a noob

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:23 pm
by gregj
Aye Captain, the ILS is 111.70

I am not sure if it makes a difference or not but I am using CYYQ scenery from [url]javascript:openWindow('download-file?file=CYQQv121.zip&fileId=6883',%20800,%20400)[/url]
I appreciate your help.

Re: Is it the plane tha plan or the pilot? I think it's the latter. Help a noob

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 4:48 pm
by Capt.Propwash
being that Vancouver and Comox are in the FTX ORBX PNW region, I will be using their sceneries.

Re: Is it the plane tha plan or the pilot? I think it's the latter. Help a noob

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:17 pm
by gregj
None taken.....does that mean u r using default scenery? If not can you point me to what u r using?

Re: Is it the plane tha plan or the pilot? I think it's the latter. Help a noob

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:18 pm
by Capt.Propwash
here is the scenery that I will be using: http://fullterrain.com/product_nablue.html

Re: Is it the plane tha plan or the pilot? I think it's the latter. Help a noob

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 2:59 am
by mjrhealth
~3000ft MSL @ 5nm 5nm out,


Should be 3000 ft AGL, you need to know your airport altitude. if its at 5000 ft then you need to be 3000 ft AGL above that or 8000 ft at 5nm out, If your aiport was at 3000 ft and you where 3000 ft MSL you hit the ground before you landed, so remeber airport altitude +3000 ft an 5 nm out. or higher if there is a mountain in the way, whcih sometimes there is.

Re: Is it the plane tha plan or the pilot? I think it's the latter. Help a noob

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 2:00 pm
by gregj
Both Airports are roughly at sea level as they are bosh on the coast line. However I will look into this as I assume that each airport will be somewhat different with respect to the amount of fill under the runways. Thanks for that bit of info. It's all gonna come together soon.