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Newbie Question (ILS Landing)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:31 pm
by MattF
Hello everybody, my name is Matt and I a newbie when it comes to flight simulation. I have been playing with my new Microsoft Flight Simulator X Gold Edition and I have having a hard time with something and was hoping I could get some advice.

Since I am new and do not know quite how to describe my problem, please forgive me if I am unclear.

The problem I am having is with landing the plane via ILS. When flying the Learjet I set up my autopilot and use GPS to get from one airport to another, but it appears GPS will get me to the airport but nowhere near the runway. However when I input the ILS frequency into NAV 1 (yes I make sure it is active) and set the heading for the runway, I then listen for the beeps. After I hear the beeps from the NAV 1 frequency, when I switch from GPS to NAV the plane goes totally off course and gets me nowhere near the runway OR the airport even, and clicking the approach button gets me nowhere near the airport either! This is so frustrating, no matter what I do I either fly over the airport at the wrong angle, fly in endless circles, or get nowhere near the airport/runway at all!

I've tried to read articles about the ILS approach but they are so technical, I don't understand any of it. I have tried watching tutorial videos on youtube, but when I try it in the game it doesn't work for me. I have also tried the games lessons but I find I can't control their planes AT ALL!

Any advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

>:(

Re: Newbie Question (ILS Landing)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:58 pm
by EVVFCX
Hi,

Best if you manually fly your plane close to correct position on the ils then select the App with autopilot already on.

If you switch from

Re: Newbie Question (ILS Landing)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:00 am
by Mr._Ryan
I know this isn't the answer you want to hear, but a newbie shouldn't be all too worried about ILS approaches in Learjets. Start with the real basics, the early lessons with Rod in the game. Learn to control the airplane first, then eventually you will move on into the VOR navigation in the lessons. I can't imagine how you could understand ILS approaches without understanding the basics of VOR navigation. Plus, from what it sounds like to me, you aren't really "flying" at all, just inputting numbers and commands into an autopilot. For me the real fun begins when you get that message from the tower, "Lufthansa flight 258, you are 27 miles southeast. Turn right to heading 175, descend and maintain 3,000 until you intercept the localizer." This is when I kill the autopilot and I am in control of a B737-800. I don't even know how to command the autopilot to fly the approach for me. What fun would that be?

Seriously, learn to walk before you try running the Boston marathon... on your hands.

Re: Newbie Question (ILS Landing)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:40 pm
by Rocket_Bird
Basically, to do an ILS, you will need to understand what a localizer is, and what a glide slope is. 

When approaching the runway, you should intercept the localizer at less than a 30 degree angle.  You should also stay below the glide slope until its time to make your final descent.  If your using autopilot, it is likely your autopilot will demand these parameters.

Don't depend on your autopilot and GPS for the entire segment of your flight, at least, not for the approach.  Unless your aircraft uses a flight management computer (which, the default Learjet does not), you will have to vector yourself properly to the runway either manually or by guidance from the ATC.

You should take the advice of starting small and going through the lessons in the game.  If, however, you are impatient, then I would suggest trying to fly an IFR flight plan to an airport with ILS and using the ATC functions.  Its pretty straight forward if you play around with it, and the ATC will pretty much guide you through the entire flight, including vectoring you to an angle where you can actually do the ILS landing. 

Re: Newbie Question (ILS Landing)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:31 pm
by Solid
I would do what the two gentlemen advised above. But if you want to try without the technical stuff. As you approach the airport with ILS, input the frec in your Nav radio and just fly toward the field, you will see the ILS indicator on the map, since you inputted at what altitude you will start to see the ILS squares or whatever you chose come on a higher altitude then marked and you will see the floating squares, just get into them an fly the path down...one or two tries and you

Re: Newbie Question (ILS Landing)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:30 pm
by alrot
I post this shot in another thread  :( It didn't work no reply from the guy this is and approach using fs9 which is the same as FSX if it can help you would be great
its a 737-40 the almost the same 2d panel of the default FSX737-800
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