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New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:09 pm
by hhomebrewer
Just put on FSX and the whole USAv2 (excluding AK and HI) from FSGenesis. My water is purple-- like Barney from Barney and Friends. I have set the scenery to 10mt resolution like the DVDs tell me to do. What else can I do to get blue water? I had FSX on this same computer maybe a year ago, but took it off for reasons I cannot now remember. I do distinctly remember the water being blue and very much to my liking in how it appeared. What do I do now? Please be gentle-- I don't know much about history, don't know much about geometry, don't know much about a science book, don't know much about the French I took......

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:39 pm
by SubZer0
Hey there! Welcome to FSX, and I really hope you enjoy your epxerience with the sim like I have ;)

One thing you can do to change the looks of the water DRAMATICALLY (for the good!) is FSWC (Flight Sim Water Configurator), available here:

www.fswaterconfigurator.com

It comes with many preset profiles and you can even make your own new profiles if you don't like any of the ones it already comes with ;)

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:43 am
by hhomebrewer
Thanks, Sub. What I see now is the water has black speckles all over it when you look at it from a distance-- like there's 26 bazillion ducks setting on it. Up close it looks OK, but not clear of whatever it is that's causing the speckles. I just want halfways-decent looking water. FSX water with zero enhancements is a quantum leap over FS9 water. I don't need to see the fish just below the surface like some do that (not you, per se) I've read about here. My machine won't run FSX too super-great anyway, so why load it down with super-great water?

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:49 am
by Layne.
What are your water settings at in the FSX settings?

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:55 am
by hhomebrewer
What are your water settings at in the FSX settings?

I couldn't tell you. I know so little about the whole package. The Settings page seems different than that same page in FS9. I have things turned up pretty high, thinking my machine can run it. Most things are at High or Ultra-high. It will play, but with some herkies and jerkies. I have the "target frame rate" set at about 35 or so. I have no idea what that does. It was set at 20 under default, so I thought I'd up it to where my eye could not see each frame. I think that's right, correct? Let me take a look and I'll report back as to what I see. Thanks for the help...



OK; I'm back. Water resolution is at Max 2.x-- whatever that means...

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:34 am
by Boikat
What are your water settings at in the FSX settings?

I couldn't tell you. I know so little about the whole package. The Settings page seems different than that same page in FS9. I have things turned up pretty high, thinking my machine can run it. Most things are at High or Ultra-high. It will play, but with some herkies and jerkies. I have the "target frame rate" set at about 35 or so. I have no idea what that does. It was set at 20 under default, so I thought I'd up it to where my eye could not see each frame. I think that's right, correct? Let me take a look and I'll report back as to what I see. Thanks for the help...



OK; I'm back. Water resolution is at Max 2.x-- whatever that means...


Speckly water in the distance may be your anti aliasing.  Try diffeent settings for that.

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:46 am
by hhomebrewer
Boikat sayeth:
Speckly water in the distance may be your anti-aliasing. Try different settings for that.

OK; I have found my way there once or twice. I have some sort of filtering set on trilinear, thinking that's better than bilinear...

Just installed my first FSX add-on airplane: The F-22 with the VC. So e-e-e-asy compared to FS9. Are they all like that?
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Well, I've tried it with anti-aliasing checked, unchecked, bi and tri and anistropsical filtering checked and unchecked-- and it just looks like crap any way I slice it. Maybe that's why I took it off. I have None for filtering checked now and anti-aliasing is unchecked. When I get the ultra-light close to the shoreline, I see what looks like massive floats of green algae right there. I took a screenie. Here it is:
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I don't think this is reflection because the trees have a shimmery, "flocked" look to them-- very much unlike the trees in FS9. I will keep experimenting. The water looks better, if just for that improvement. The very black picture was taken at night, but look at the speckles all over the water (Darn! Picture is too small to see 'em), and those dark, vertical bands. This was with the filtering on and anti-aliasing on, et cetera. All that is off now, but I still don't like what I'm seeing. Any ideas, gents?

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:43 am
by hhomebrewer
I've now tried every form of filtering with anti-aliasing both on and off. I just don't like what I'm seeing. I guess this is why I took FSX off about a year ago. i wonder if NickN's tweaks would help. They are way above my paygrade in complexity, though. Good thing I have Acronis to cover my screw-ups if I dare to try the tweaks...

Just not happy with FSX...

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:20 am
by laurits
Hi there.

If Nick's tweaks are too complicated for you, try the Nhancer set-up:

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_p ... 769#156769

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:27 am
by idahosurge
Boikat sayeth:
Speckly water in the distance may be your anti-aliasing. Try different settings for that.

OK; I have found my way there once or twice. I have some sort of filtering set on trilinear, thinking that's better than bilinear...

Just installed my first FSX add-on airplane: The F-22 with the VC. So e-e-e-asy compared to FS9. Are they all like that?
.
.
.
.
Well, I've tried it with anti-aliasing checked, unchecked, bi and tri and anistropsical filtering checked and unchecked-- and it just looks like crap any way I slice it. Maybe that's why I took it off. I have None for filtering checked now and anti-aliasing is unchecked. When I get the ultra-light close to the shoreline, I see what looks like massive floats of green algae right there. I took a screenie. Here it is:
ImageImage
I don't think this is reflection because the trees have a shimmery, "flocked" look to them-- very much unlike the trees in FS9. I will keep experimenting. The water looks better, if just for that improvement. The very black picture was taken at night, but look at the speckles all over the water (Darn! Picture is too small to see 'em), and those dark, vertical bands. This was with the filtering on and anti-aliasing on, et cetera. All that is off now, but I still don't like what I'm seeing. Any ideas, gents?


The day time shot looks exactly like reflections on the water to me, I see nothing wrong with it.

If you are using a Nvidia graphics card then go to the top of this forum and look at Nick N's tweak tread.

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:48 pm
by Steve M
I have read things on the forum before about running dual graphics cards on FSX. Also the proper drivers are important as mentioned above.

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:52 pm
by RickG
As I understand it, FSX automatically adjusts all settings to be the best for a persons particular computer. You may want to set everything to the defaults, then slowly play with the settings after that.

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:23 pm
by SubZer0
hhomebrewer,

go to www.nhancer.com and downoad it

then go to the link mentioned above to set it up. that should really help with the looks of the sim.




the first picture with the 'fields of algae' is just the reflection of the shoreline on FSX. that's how it's supposed to look. However, the bands on the second picture shouldn't be there, and may have something to do with your settings. set up nhancer and that might take care of a lot of problems you are having.

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:36 pm
by jwenham
Boikat sayeth:
Speckly water in the distance may be your anti-aliasing. Try different settings for that.

OK; I have found my way there once or twice. I have some sort of filtering set on trilinear, thinking that's better than bilinear...

Just installed my first FSX add-on airplane: The F-22 with the VC. So e-e-e-asy compared to FS9. Are they all like that?
.
.
.
.
Well, I've tried it with anti-aliasing checked, unchecked, bi and tri and anistropsical filtering checked and unchecked-- and it just looks like crap any way I slice it. Maybe that's why I took it off. I have None for filtering checked now and anti-aliasing is unchecked. When I get the ultra-light close to the shoreline, I see what looks like massive floats of green algae right there. I took a screenie. Here it is:
ImageImage
I don't think this is reflection because the trees have a shimmery, "flocked" look to them-- very much unlike the trees in FS9. I will keep experimenting. The water looks better, if just for that improvement. The very black picture was taken at night, but look at the speckles all over the water (Darn! Picture is too small to see 'em), and those dark, vertical bands. This was with the filtering on and anti-aliasing on, et cetera. All that is off now, but I still don't like what I'm seeing. Any ideas, gents?

You need to check at least bi-linear for filtering or funny things happen. Set-up n-hancer and I bet that will fix it.

Re: New FSXer...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:54 pm
by hhomebrewer
You need to check at least bi-linear for filtering or funny things happen. Set-up n-hancer and I bet that will fix it.

I ain't never heared of n-hancer. Worth a shot. Ain't nothin' else worked...

I thought about checking the boxes in FSX just as I have them checked in FS9 for these same parameters. Haven't got around to it, yet-- lots of posting to do on another Forum far, far removed in subject from this one...