Don't Sink Callout

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Don't Sink Callout

Postby alb469 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:58 am

On some a/c sound folders the callout is repeated endlessly. How can I cut down on the repeating or remove it.
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby jrom » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:07 am

Are you trying to get rid of the sound, or just multiple entries in the Aircraft\sound folder?
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby alb469 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:07 pm

Either way.I would like to cut down the number of times it is repeated.If that cant be done then can it be removed altogether
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby jrom » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:43 pm

Well, I tried the FSX demo. This sound irritated me to no end, and I found that (at least in the demo) there is another copy of this WAV file under ...\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sounds. I deleted it, and I don't hear it anymore.
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby Keep It Simple » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:53 pm

The "don't sink" call out is ment to be anoying and is designed to grab your attention.  Would you say a fire/smoke alarm is too loud and anoying also?.

The solution would be to learn to land the aircraft properly.  :)
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby Fr. Bill » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:58 pm

If you constantly hear the "Don't Sink" alert, that is an indication that you are too slow and very close to stalling the a/c.

The solution is to add a touch of power to reduce the sink rate, not disable the alarm!  ::)
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby NickN » Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:21 pm

LOL!


These are not real pilots Bill... they have no concept of "Bitchin Betty" who will sit there and scream at you in a real plane the same as FSX if you are not 5-by-5 and in the 'pipe'
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:01 pm

The descent, power curve for turbine powered aircraft is as tricky to manage, as walking down stairs, with a stack of books balanced on your head.. even moreso in a jet.. even MOREso in a BIG jet.. and getting used to turbine lag complicates it.

It all starts with a well planned descent.. and the use of those approach stabilizing skills you spent so many hours mastering in small, slow, piston aircraft  ;)
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby alb469 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:15 pm

Hmmm. Coming in to land with my ILS needles perfectly centred and 15 to 20 knoys above stall speed and I still get that callout starting at about 1000 feet agl. What more can I do?
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby BAW0343 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:56 pm

Hmmm. Coming in to land with my ILS needles perfectly centred and 15 to 20 knoys above stall speed and I still get that callout starting at about 1000 feet agl. ...


Then your not coming in perfectly 15 to 20 knots above stall speed.
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:00 pm

It's all about approach speed
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby alb469 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:26 pm

OK My landing weight is 153000 lbs.Max t/o weight is343600 lbs that should be light enough for landing.The stall speed on this a/c is 120knots. My speed was 135 knots when I was at 1000 ft agl. Guess that's to slow! The a/c in question is the C141A. I can't find any specs for max landing wt or min landing speeds.
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby alb469 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:59 pm

This is frustrating,last landing I decreased my Ldng wt by another 5 tons and landed at 160 knots perfectly on the glide slope still getting the callout, Can't think of anything else to do. Even changed the a/c sound folder I got from an a/c that never did it before until on this a/c. It seems to be an integral part of this a/c. Anyone have any ideas of where this wave file is hiding?
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby dave3cu » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:51 pm

It could be using the FSX GWPS system. If so,there is a [GWPS] section in the aircraft.cfg file. The sounds are gwps*.wav files in the main Sound folder.

If it uses a gauge it would be listed in the panel.cfg file. The sounds would most likely be in the main Sound folder also.
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Re: Don't Sink Callout

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:22 pm

OK My landing weight is 153000 lbs.Max t/o weight is343600 lbs that should be light enough for landing.The stall speed on this a/c is 120knots. My speed was 135 knots when I was at 1000 ft agl. Guess that's to slow! The a/c in question is the C141A. I can't find any specs for max landing wt or min landing speeds.


This also opens another can of worms. Many developers "force fit" air files, and cfg files from similar aircraft, often making a mess of the subtle aerodynamics.. ..you could be fighting a losing battle against an unknown enemy.
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