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What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:44 pm
by FCAIR
Hello all,I was just wondering what was the first mass produced Jet airliner to really signal the end of the Props in front line service. I know that the Comet was first in the UK and having structual problems it had a very fatal start,
But what aircraft really made the leap and became the first true Jet flying.
I have always loved the Lockheed L-049 (Connie)In my opinion it was and still is one of the worlds most beautiful aircraft and I was setting here thinking what could of been beter than flying the Connie so it must of been an impressive airplane I just can't think of what it was!

Re: What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:57 pm
by C
Depending on the definition of "mass production", then the Comet probably is your answer.

Re: What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:23 pm
by Allen_Z
structual problems

Square windows in a pressurized aircraft a no no

Re: What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:44 pm
by expat
[quote] structual problems

Square windows in a pressurized aircraft a no no

Re: What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:47 pm
by LSEdwards
Hello all,I was just wondering what was the first mass produced Jet airliner to really signal the end of the Props in front line service.


According to Wikipedia:
"The first purpose-built jet airliner was the de Havilland Comet which first flew in 1949 and entered service in 1952. Also developed in 1949 was the Avro Jetliner, and although it never reached production, the term jetliner caught on as a generic term for all passenger jet aircraft.

These first jet airliners were followed some years later by the Sud Aviation Caravelle, Tupolev Tu-104 (2nd in service), Boeing 707, Douglas DC-8, and Convair 880."

Lawrence

Re: What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:48 pm
by Hagar
structual problems

Square windows in a pressurized aircraft a no no  :'(

The corner is the weakest spot, 4 corners per window, etc...


Always quoted, but once they where rounded off it was very successful.

Matt

The point being that they should have known better in the first place. I believe they ignored all advice to the contrary. Any boiler engineer could have told them if they'd asked.

Re: What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:25 pm
by expat
structual problems

Square windows in a pressurized aircraft a no no  :'(

The corner is the weakest spot, 4 corners per window, etc...


Always quoted, but once they where rounded off it was very successful.

Matt

The point being that they should have known better in the first place. I believe they ignored all advice to the contrary. Any boiler engineer could have told them if they'd asked.


Yes, but most boiler engineers had learnt the trade from the family business or as an apprentice, whereas aircraft designers had spent three years studying the stuff at university............ever tried to tell a university educated person how something is done :-X ;D

Matt

Re: What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:39 pm
by C
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Yes, but most boiler engineers had learnt the trade from the family business or as an apprentice, whereas aircraft designers had spent three years studying the stuff at university............ever tried to tell a university educated person how something is done :-X ;D

Matt


Steady on... ;D

Re: What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:32 am
by FCAIR
So it was the Comet,and if they had hired a buch of laid off rail workers from the boilermaker shop the window problem might not of been at all. The Comet from DM flight sims does it work in FSX. I spent alot of time in FS9 flying the BAC 1-11 awesome aircraft of DM flight sims. Thanks for all the replies.

Re: What was the first Mass produced Jet Airliner

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:57 am
by C
So it was the Comet,and if they had hired a buch of laid off rail workers from the boilermaker shop the window problem might not of been at all. The Comet from DM flight sims does it work in FSX. I spent alot of time in FS9 flying the BAC 1-11 awesome aircraft of DM flight sims. Thanks for all the replies.


DM's aircraft aren't FSX native IIRC, but there are fixes about to let them work with decent functionality in FSX.