Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

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Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby justpassingthrough » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:12 pm

Just an FYI related to Vista and FSX


I have been thinking about moving to Vista soon since FSX will be updated with DX10. I asked around about anything important I should know and was told to make sure these updates were applied

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

and the recent update Phil Taylor stopped by and announced:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

I was told to install them one at a time in the order shown and reboot between each install


I was told the first 2 should come automatically from Windows Update after I install Vista but that there had been mentions sometimes they do not take right using that auto method and it may require uninstalling the first 2 manually and reinstalling them one by one and rebooting in between.

I was also told to use this update for the second monitor iI have started using when I go to Vista

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... layLang=en

Those are all x32 updates and there are different x64 versions of the same update available

I have not decided if I will go with Vista 32 or 64 yet but will all the hub-bub about memory problems I might go with x64 anyway even if it is patched.
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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby justpassingthrough » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:16 pm

Oh yea, one other thing!

In Vista FSX.exe must still be patched for 3gig memory use until they release the SP2 update. When that update comes out it will have that edit in the FSX.exe file so no messin with it is needed. According to what I read even if you dont use 4gigs of memory that still needs to be done.
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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby emike09 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:20 pm

Awesome just what I was looking for.  Tired of screen flashing when running in multi-monitor.  Thanks so much!!!!!
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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby PhilTaylor » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:07 pm

Oh yea, one other thing!

In Vista FSX.exe must still be patched for 3gig memory use until they release the SP2 update. When that update comes out it will have that edit in the FSX.exe file so no messin with it is needed. According to what I read even if you dont use 4gigs of memory that still needs to be done.


Yes, to address the Out-of-memory(OOM ) errors before SP2 you need to:
1)install the Vista shadow copy fix from above
2)turn down Autogen
3)mark the OS for /3G
4)Install June 2007 DX runtime
5)mark FSX for /3G

Once we ship SP2, you will need to
1)install the Vista shadow copy fix from above
2)mark the OS for /3G
3)Install June 2007 DX runtime

There is still the potential that even with SP2 some scenarios could require reducing settings, but we really are trying to minimize the OOM issue
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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby justpassingthrough » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:04 am

Oh yea, one other thing!

In Vista FSX.exe must still be patched for 3gig memory use until they release the SP2 update. When that update comes out it will have that edit in the FSX.exe file so no messin with it is needed. According to what I read even if you dont use 4gigs of memory that still needs to be done.


Yes, to address the Out-of-memory(OOM ) errors before SP2 you need to:
1)install the Vista shadow copy fix from above
2)turn down Autogen
3)mark the OS for /3G
4)Install June 2007 DX runtime
5)mark FSX for /3G

Once we ship SP2, you will need to
1)install the Vista shadow copy fix from above
2)mark the OS for /3G
3)Install June 2007 DX runtime

There is still the potential that even with SP2 some scenarios could require reducing settings, but we really are trying to minimize the OOM issue



Thank you fou the update and the list of must-do's Phil!

I think I am going to go with Vista x64 to avoid any problems or need to edit anything. A friend rebuilt my tower late last year and moved me to XP x64 in the process and I have never had any OOM problems. My new quad-core rig built a few weeks ago is the same and also using XP x64. As a matter of fact I have found many more plus's than minus's with how well software seems to run. It appears computers and software are destined to move with the times and since hardware manufactures seem to be getting on the bandwagon now with 64bit drivers, I would rather move up than down.  

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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby drtomkat » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:11 pm

just go to nzone.com and they have the drivers for vista. i did it and i notice alot of difference.
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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby diga » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:27 pm

I installed Vista 32bit and did a Windows updates. Then installed FSX and then load the default flight and reboot the system. Then installed the Acceleration pack, load the default flight and it was very good without any shuttering. Installed the new nVidia driver 169.25for 8600GT and did Nick's recommendations with nHancer. Still the default flight was without any shuttering. Then installed Adobe Photoshop Elements and Adobe reader. Then did defrag with O&O V10 using the Space defrag and reboot and did the 2nd Space defrag and reboot the system and then did a Named defrag. After that load the default flight and now there are heave shuttering. In the Spot view I have heave shuttering and every other second the screen moves and it is horrible. How can I get rid of this or what is wrong. Why the first flight was so smooth and with out any shuttering.
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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby NickN » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:38 pm

I installed Vista 32bit and did a Windows updates. Then installed FSX and then load the default flight and reboot the system. Then installed the Acceleration pack, load the default flight and it was very good without any shuttering. Installed the new nVidia driver 169.25for 8600GT and did Nick's recommendations with nHancer. Still the default flight was without any shuttering. Then installed Adobe Photoshop Elements and Adobe reader. Then did defrag with O&O V10 using the Space defrag and reboot and did the 2nd Space defrag and reboot the system and then did a Named defrag. After that load the default flight and now there are heave shuttering. In the Spot view I have heave shuttering and every other second the screen moves and it is horrible. How can I get rid of this or what is wrong. Why the first flight was so smooth and with out any shuttering.



I know this post is old but I just saw it when checking out some links

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The problem you were having is because of the SPACE defrag in V10 and Windows. That is why I stated to use O&O v8.6 for Vista because it does not have the SPACE defrag issue v10 has. See my post in the sticky at the top of the forum about v8.6

If you use v10 you should never run the space defrag after a name defrag has been run or you destroy the name defrag
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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby tcco94 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:31 am

I have vista but I dont really have any problems with my FSX..
Had it for about 5 months..
What problems are you having?  :-?
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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby macca22au » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:39 am

Greetings Nick:  I am about to make some changes to my system, so will be reinstalling FSX.  Do you know whether the problem with v10 for Vista has been overcome yet, or should I use 8.6 for the Space defrag at least.

I got the feeling in an email from O&O that they didn't seem convinced by your view, so I have the feeling they weren't rushing to change their algorithm.
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Re: Vista and FSX Needs Some Stuff

Postby NickN » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:28 am

[quote]Greetings Nick:
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