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new member with a question

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:52 pm
by TRflyman01
Hi, although I am a new member I think I have every thread in this forum at least once. Many thanks to all of you for the great tips and knowledge of FSX. It has made my flight simming much more enjoyable. My Question, yesterday i was flying in the default Baron. I was flying along at 5000' following the mississippi river from Minnesota to the gulf. Flying with real world weather, cruising at about 145 ias I started to go through some pretty heavy turbulance. My ias was making severe dips and climbs. All of a sudden it shot to max speed and I crashed due to aircraft stress. I keep realism set to max. Is this possible or was this just a freak glitch in FSX. Is there any way to prepare for something like this other than trying to fly above or below the turbulance as quick as possible? Could something like this happen in real world? OK, I guess i had more than one question :)

Again many thanks to all for making this forum a joy to read.
My desktop, one of my first FSX pictures,

Re: new member with a question

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:15 pm
by TSC.
Without checking, I can't remember of the top of my head what the max IAS for the default baron is, but I'd wager that you hit a severe gust that took your IAS above the max for your plane.

Nice pic BTW, Sitka?

TSC.

Re: new member with a question

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:36 pm
by Daube
Hi and welcome to Simviation :)

I confirm the answer above: most likely you went through a high-speed wind layer that was opposite to your direction, and suddenly the sum of your actual speed + wind speed exceeded the maximum allowed speed for that plane.

This can happen in real life in cumulonimbus clouds for example. That's why it's forbidden to fly next to or inside those clouds, the turbulences there are so high that they can litterally destroy your plane.

Re: new member with a question

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:58 pm
by Brett_Henderson
In a real airplane.. as soon as you experience (or expect) severe turbulence... you immediately reduce airspeed to something near maneuvering speed (Va) (usually best-glide X 1.3)...and then try to to climb or descend out of it. If you keep plugging along at cruise speed, things could get ugly..

If I'm not mistaken, 145kias is LESS than Va for the Baron.. so it's kind of a glitch where realism is taken to an extreme.. Though it is possible for the wings to be sheared off..., something like that wouldn't sneak up on you.

Re: new member with a question

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:10 pm
by TRflyman01
Thanks for the replys. I was flying after i made this post and realized that i was probably going 165 to 170 when the turbulance started. I have always just riden out the turbulane before but never again. It sux to get 300 miles into a planned flight and have to start over.
By the way Brett thanks for the cessna cardinal it is one of the few freeware planes that I truly love to fly. The flight dynamics are better than default planes. Plans on any more freeware models?

TRflyman 01

Re: new member with a question

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:54 pm
by BFMF
It sux to get 300 miles into a planned flight and have to start over.


That's why you periodically save your flight....

Re: new member with a question

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:59 pm
by Brett_Henderson
By the way Brett thanks for the cessna cardinal it is one of the few freeware planes that I truly love to fly. The flight dynamics are better than default planes. Plans on any more freeware models?

TRflyman 01


You're welcome, and thanks for the kind assesment..

Got a 310 on the way (another plane where I'm gathering some real time)...

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Re: new member with a question

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:58 am
by macca22au
Hi Brett:  I did quite a bit of time in a 310.  Demanding to fly well, but still quick and a real gem to handle.  Don't get caught in an engine failure after takeoff with the gear in mid-cycle.  It is demanding to put it mildly.

However the plane I used to fly is now on a post at the entrance to Canberra airport as an entrance symbol.  At least it proves I didn't wreck it, it just ran out of time.  VH-KRZ for the Aussies who know it.