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Airport is about 113 miles from where it should be

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:40 am
by loomex
In FSX there is an airport that is way off and I want to get rid of it or move it. If you fly out of KITH (Ithaca-Tompkins Regional Airport) using RWY 32, you will see a plateau dead ahead. It is a small privite field, Knox Landing Airport, Sardinia, New York, USA (15NK). This airport actually belongs 113 miles west. If you look at the Airnav site. http://www.airnav.com/airport/15NK Its wrong on the map they have

I just want to know an easy way to delete, move, or what ever I need to do to get rid of it.

Re: Airport is about 113 miles from where it should be

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:06 am
by BillG
Wouldn't ADE (Airport Design Editor) let you just move the location? It lets you edit pretty much everything else about airports.

Re: Airport is about 113 miles from where it should be

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:51 pm
by loomex
I tried to remove it, no go,  cant lower the altitude of it, just the area around it.

Re: Airport is about 113 miles from where it should be

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:04 pm
by reider
Wouldn't ADE (Airport Design Editor) let you just move the location? It lets you edit pretty much everything else about airports.


If it has an ICAO code thats used in FSX yes.  Just loading the stock airport in ADE, saving to the desktop with your initials in as an ADE airport (ADE adds your initials automatically).  So on compiling it and copying to the Add Ons folder, FSX would then ignore the existing stock airport and use this one instead.  But the long/lat would be the old one so no advantage.

So two options remain, one of which is create a new airport using the same code but with the corrected long/lat coords.  Save to the desktop and then compile it. This compiled file placed in the Add Ons folder would override the stock airport.  But you`d have to manually add runways and any other stuff the original has.  Though ADE does allow you to copy most things now from one airport/airfield to another.

The remaining option is the new version 1.26 which I have but not tested yet.  This allegedly allows changes to the long/lat.  Not sure if it works with a copy of a stock airport or just new ones but theirs at least a way of doing it.

http://www.airportdesigneditor.co.uk/

NB:  You can save direct to the Add Ons folder, I use the desktop as a middleman for safety and to retain full control over successive edits.

Reider

Re: Airport is about 113 miles from where it should be

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:47 pm
by loomex
I have had no luck with moving it all

Re: Airport is about 113 miles from where it should be

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:06 am
by BobF
In FSX there is an airport that is way off and I want to get rid of it or move it. If you fly out of KITH (Ithaca-Tompkins Regional Airport) using RWY 32, you will see a plateau dead ahead. It is a small privite field, Knox Landing Airport, Sardinia, New York, USA (15NK). This airport actually belongs 113 miles west. If you look at the Airnav site. http://www.airnav.com/airport/15NK Its wrong on the map they have

I just want to know an easy way to delete, move, or what ever I need to do to get rid of it.


Hi. You are right. I looked at Google World which shows it correctly the same as Airnav and it is wrong in FSX. I looked at the AFCAD with AFX and FSX Planner which show the bgl file as APX27160 . The elevation is wrong too. I see that you can change the properties (lat/lon/alt) in either program and save it. I have not tried it. If anyone knows if this can be done without any problems I'll try it. Regards, Bob.

Re: Airport is about 113 miles from where it should be

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:12 am
by reider
Logically, if you use the stock airport to load in to ADE or alternative.  Delete the runways and all ancillaries so you only have the marker for the long/lat and nothing else.   Then save it as the same ICAO temporarily to the desktop.  In my version of ADE this would be 15NK_ADE_SJB (where SJB is automatically append as my initials by ADE, yours would work with your initials) Compile the saved file on the desktop via ADE or whatever then place the compiled file in the Add on folder then this would solve the problem, but first read about the sub folders in the next paragraph.

Add a Scenery and a Texture Folder as subfolders in the FSX Add Ons folder, placing the new non runway airport in this Scenery folder.  Go to the FSX settings and Add Ons, you now have the facility to turn the feature on/off at will.  The FSX stock airport is unharmed by this experience as all you did was use it as a template, take a copy, amend it, save it, compile it and use the compiled version in FSX-leaving the stock airport intact.

When turned off FSX will use the standard airport as supplied in the wrong lat/long coordinates.  When the add on is turned on FSX will spot the change and as it is higher up the list of add ons than the standard airport the modified airport will get priority.  Therefore the add on would be used and only has a marker for the lat/long, no runways.  Therefore, no airport shows........!   Et Voila, to the eyes and mind the airport has been deleted. ;D

NOTE: NO ANIMALS WERE HARMED IN THE PRODUCTION OF THIS INSTRUCTION  ;)

Reider

Re: Airport is about 113 miles from where it should be

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:43 am
by loomex
I'll give it shot later tonight. Or if someone else tries it I would gladly accept the changes :) Thanks