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Why

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:19 pm
by fighter
Whenever I take off, with nearly any aircraft my plane starts to drift off to the left, also when I land, it has happened to my mates also, I want to know if its normal, and how it can be avoided or if its my and my friends game thats messing up, in the air, the aircraft is fine..

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:25 pm
by alrot
is it in real weather? seems like a crosswind, make sure you dissangage the real world weather (The jeppesen one)an set to No winds in weather control(slider to 0) ,then try

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:26 pm
by fighter
I'll check, i'll turn real weather off and get back to you!

EDIT: Nope its on fair weather
EDIT No.2: When I put it on calm it took off fine!

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:35 pm
by fighter
When I put the weather on calm it took off fine ::) 8-) ;) ;D :D

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:37 pm
by JamesH
are you using rudder pedals? it must  be set in realism setting in autorudder,If you are not using rudderpedals ,anyway make sure autorudder is engage ,and make sure you make a well  calibrate in your joystick..


I just re-registered to this board to say the same thing. I used to (re:FS9) have the exact same problem, regardless of what in game settings I changed. Unfortunately it persisted after I calibrated my joystick too.
By any chance are you using a Logitek joystick? When I first queried the FS forums about this they told me that Logitek joysticks have a habit of developing a lean to the left. They also told me that I should try cleaning the inside of the joystick, but since I'm lazy I never got round to it.
I guess that's the best advice I can give you.

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:38 pm
by alrot
are you using rudder pedals? it must  be set in realism setting in autorudder,If you are not using rudderpedals ,anyway make sure autorudder is engage ,and make sure you make a well  calibrate in your joystick..

EDIT:
EDIT No.2: When I put it on calm it took off fine!


Is a crosswind ,If you don't want them set your weather condition like this (Is in spanish your must say winds)

Image

But winds are normal IRL

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:42 pm
by Fozzer
If it is a single, propeller, piston engined aeroplane, it is perfectly normal, due to the rotational gyroscopic forces of the engine crankshaft and the propeller.

The aeroplane will drift in the opposite direction to the crankshaft/propeller rotation, and is most noticeable on take-off.

Apply slight opposite rudder to counteract the effect...;)...!

It is accurately modeled on most piston prop aircraft....eg:....Cessna 172, etc...

F....G-BPLF.... 8-)...!

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:52 pm
by alrot
If it is a single, propeller, piston engined aeroplane, it is perfectly normal, due to the rotational gyroscopic forces of the engine crankshaft and the propeller.

The aeroplane will drift in the opposite direction to the crankshaft/propeller rotation, and is most noticeable on take-off.

Apply slight opposite rudder to counteract the effect...;)...!

It is accurately modeled on most piston prop aircraft....eg:....Cessna 172, etc...

F....G-BPLF.... 8-)...!


Jezz!!! :o I forgot that one too,....Fozzer its right !!

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:06 pm
by Fozzer

Jezz!!! :o I forgot that one too,....Fozzer its right !!


Alex...;)...

You have been spending far too many hours driving those horrible, commercial, aluminum, jet-propelled, cigar-tube, passenger 'buses... :(...!

Time to regain control of a nice little Cessna 150 again....

...trust me...;)....LOL... ;D...!

F....G-BPLF... 8-)...!

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:37 am
by fighter
are you using rudder pedals? it must  be set in realism setting in autorudder,If you are not using rudderpedals ,anyway make sure autorudder is engage ,and make sure you make a well  calibrate in your joystick..


I just re-registered to this board to say the same thing. I used to (re:FS9) have the exact same problem, regardless of what in game settings I changed. Unfortunately it persisted after I calibrated my joystick too.
By any chance are you using a Logitek joystick? When I first queried the FS forums about this they told me that Logitek joysticks have a habit of developing a lean to the left. They also told me that I should try cleaning the inside of the joystick, but since I'm lazy I never got round to it.
I guess that's the best advice I can give you.


Indeed! I am using a logitech joystick, and they suck!

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:05 am
by TSC.
If your flying a prop then I doubt it's the joystick, as Fozz mentioned, it's more likely to be caused by prop-torque. You either need to apply some opposite rudder (perfectly normal & true to real life) or go into your settings & set your 'P-factor' to zero.

The easiest way to see if it's your joystick is to try the same take-offs with a prop plane & then again with a jet - the jet shouldn't drift like a prop will.

Cheers,

TSC.

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:32 am
by fabiane
Enjoy physics  ;D! gyro effects can be turned off, at least in FS9. Should also be possible in FSX.

I'm using a Logi Joystick, too and I'm perfectly satisfied. You can adjust the sensitivity of the stick for better results in FS (bigger dead area). Some Logitech joys are a bit nervous on the controls.

Cheers,
Fabian

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:39 am
by Brett_Henderson
NO NO.. don't turn the P-factor off  ::)    It's part of flying  ;)  

Managing the rudder on takeoff roll, and especially during high-angle-of-attack climbs, is as much a part of flying as applying power and pitching away from the ground is, to get airborne..   8-)

Re: Why

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:27 pm
by fighter
I don't think any of you understand me

It's not just a slight turn it throws me COMPLETELY off the runway, on a prop and on a jet, minimal wind and after calibration.

Re: Why

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:49 am
by Flying Mouse
Been drinking before take off?

::)

I also suggest you see if auto rudder is activated because that might be the reason why your plane swirl out of controll.

It is nice to keep it deactivated provided you ahve a decent rudder controll set.

Mouse  ;)