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Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:34 pm
by alrot
that some of the default models have issues... like Lear45 doesn't deploy (only in animation)the spoilers?maybe 5 degree only a tiny move?

also the 737 and the airbus doesn't have passenger lights,I mean in the windows

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Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:42 pm
by Ashton Lawson
hmm, ya...

i can see antialiasing doesnt help u in any way...

back to the point,  try this for me:  assign a joystick axis or some other axis as the spoiler axis, and see if the spoilers go to full.

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:44 pm
by alrot
strike Im a designer also I have a complete virtual homemade VC , Does it deploy well in your pc?I can see that the 747 and the crj 700 deploys fine (about the AA Its a zoom token from an entire shot a quick shot)
check you light in the 737..Please

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:21 am
by PilotDude11
both work fine on my pc

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:44 am
by alrot
both work fine on my pc



What? I cannot belive it!!!!

I seems lear45 has a Mdl animation problem in the SPOILERS not the flaps..and also the passenger windows at night wont light up

This is serious I need confirmation on this please ,this ace team should know about this ,I could be wrong but I replace last night the lear45 and still the same problem (Only the lear's spoilers)

I think many of you have so much hard fixing the graphic problem that nobuddy took a little time to check these airplanes check out this


Image

There is time to fix the Lear (Unless my deluxe version is a wrong edition)before sp its release it, but this lear45 has some serious issues ,and the 737 and airbus 310 have a small one..I hope I'm wrong

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:34 am
by Brett_Henderson
I'm so used to fixing the little glitches in FS planes that I don't give it much thought.. I had to apply a handful of fixes to theFS9 Lear... everything from adding an avionics switch, to tweaking the flight dynamics. And I'm sure that will always be the case. I'm not a Lear pilot, so I don't know the exact degree of spoiler deployment.. and don't really care if the model get's it exactly right. I do know that they're spoilers.. not air brakes and are supposed to work in conjunction with the ailerons... So I wouldn't expect them to "pop" up much at all.. just enough to disrupt the air-flow and disrupt lift so that the plane will settle on to the runway and stay there at 110kias.

I bump into Lear pilots now and then.. I'll be sure to ask one and post back..

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:12 pm
by alrot

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:12 pm
by alrot
I would apressiate your concern about a default ORIGINAL FSX model rather than any add-on ,because Until now ORIGINAL DEFAULT MODELS are the best designs to fly In FSX , There are Bugs that can be repair at this moment as I mentioned above The passengers window lights in the night in some heavys models and The Learjet Has many issues wich I mentioned above ..

All I want Is a confirmation(a seriously ones) ,It simple Have you check inside the game these bugs? Or it just me?


Thanks

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:03 pm
by Brett_Henderson
Well.. that picture tells it all... you are right.. I wonder if it's on the list of bugs to fix, because you know we can't  change key-frames without the source file.

Have you tried messing with the air file.. or aircraft.cfg file ?  I can't imagine the modeler only animated for that much deployment. How far all the other control surfaces deflect can be controlled in the air.cfg files.. right ?

I'm gonna experiment   :)

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:21 pm
by alrot
No Brett don't , If I'm correct this has to be with the modeling animation ,the file *.air wont change this anomaly See in the interiorvc the spoilerlevel_stick ,its working well as the effect it self as airbrakes,everythings fine its the animation in the exterior,and perhapps the designer while was killing unused poligongs ACCIDENTALY wipe the central console panel in the right side though ,I just hope that some of the guys who are working in sp1 see this or someone ,the guys here who met some of them ,Tell to them this ,before sp1 its released..

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:52 pm
by pepper_airborne
hmm, odd, i never encountered those problems, maby there artifacts on your PC, though i will check it out later on on my other rig.

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:07 pm
by PilotDude11
the window lights do work if you press "L" instead of clicking the on/off switches

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:21 pm
by Brett_Henderson
That "hole" you see in the center console is not a modeling anomily, it's how a viewpoint consumes the model portion that is too close (and it might be a graphics card issue too)... I added a right seat to the KingAir and it's the same problem.. same thing happened when I added a passenger seat view to the KingAir. I don't think that's fixable.. All you can do is try to position the viewpoint so it doesn't "consume" part of the model.

As far as the control surface stuff.. I'm still gonna go look into the air file..

Edit: OK.. you're right (again). Control surface deployment (visually) is a function of control/key input. The numbers in the air file are for the flight model... I KNEW that (I must bo going senile)..

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:44 pm
by alrot
the window lights do work if you press "L" instead of clicking the on/off switches


Open the 737-800 turn the light set the plane as spot view at night take a shot and put it here

That "hole" you see in the center console is not a modeling anomily,


:)Is is Brett ,It happends at the last time when we tried to save poligons for not getting a stiky plane an FMPS eater.. ;)

Re: Have you notice this?

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:13 pm
by reider
The B737_800 Landing Lights switches are reversed, OFF=ON and ON=OFF which can get confusing if you`ve just come from the 747.  Its allegedly on MSs list but at the bottom of a big pile.  I`ve had the fix details here a couple of weeks but every time I try to paste them in and post I get a blank screen and a message saying DONE, so I gave up, tried a few times.  I could link to another site where I posted it but shouldn`t really.  These other problems might be fixed the same way......  Don`t think the logo light or the taxi light does anything on the 737 either.....

Reider