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What kind of frame rates are you getting? Also, post your specs so people could compare.

AMD 3800+ @ 2.4GHz
Nvidia 7900GS Extreme
Asus A8N-SLI Premium
550w rosewill psu
2GB DDR400 RAM

And yet I'm still not getting more than 10FPS

20-25

If I were to select the same maximum settings in FSX that I have in my FS9, then I would be stationary most of the time.. ...!

That says it all... ...!

Guess what I've decided to continue with for the foreseeable future?... ...!

Paul... 8-)...!

I still say we need a FPS standard.

A stock plane flying over a detailed airport (stock scenery) at a given altitude with a stock weather theme (clouds make a huge difference) and some sort of consistent display settings.

Saying that you get 30fps means nothing, if its in a C172 in level flight at 10,000 over detailess scenerey, all traffic off, all sliders at minimum, with the weather set to clear. An old computer with onboard video could probably pull that off. Make it a 747, throw in some clouds, a little autogen and make that a climbing turn out of O'hare and you'll see 3fps..

Is there any way to upload some config files (weather/situation etc) so we can just download them, load the mission and report back the fps?

That way we'd all be running exactly the same scenario and the only difference would be the hardware and operating system.

Perhaps Microsoft would like to see the results....

I have a test file, but you need add-on traffic (tons!) for it to be able to compare it to mine.

A321, EDDF, 100% Traffic, Cloudy skies.

12-15 FPS from the VC.

Otherwise, they vary from 10 to 50 in flight, in the VC, they're 10-25.


And consider my settings maxed.

What kind of frame rates are you getting? Also, post your specs so people could compare.

AMD 3800+ @ 2.4GHz
Nvidia 7900GS Extreme
Asus A8N-SLI Premium
550w rosewill psu
2GB DDR400 RAM

And yet I'm still not getting more than 10FPS

Why don't you apply the tweaks ? Don't you want to play with your game ? Don't you read the forum ?
I'm getting 20 stable FPS at low speed on a PIV 3,2 GH, 6800 GT 256 Mb and only 1 Gb of RAM. Your PC is much more powerfull than mine.

Daube, if you're getting 20fps I'm guessing it's over hills or desert maybe, or with no weather. My pc is higher spec than yours and I have to turn everything down to even get close to double figures around big airports. And yes I've done all the tweaks. We can all get great frames upstairs in fair weather but that's not where it counts!

If you can get 20fps landing somewhere like Seattle with real weather and VATSIM pilots taxiing around I'd imagine Intel will want a word...

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
3GB RAM
WinFast NF4K8AC motherboard
Palit GeForce 7600 GT (256mb - PCI Express)
Windows XP Home Edition SP2
MS Flight Simulator X
FSInn v1.2
FS Co-pilot v1.6
FSUIPC4 v4.0.6.0

Getting 12-15 in cities and a solid 18-22 outside of metro areas here. Outside of metro I can raise frame lock and it will run around 28-30, no problem but in doing so it reduces distance sharpness so I keep it at 22 when in the air and out of city areas. I see dips to 10 in very close to large cities but even that low it is not a stutter show because of the frame counter being off.


AMD 3700+ (over clocked)
2GB memory (over clocked)
7800GT 256mb (over clocked)


There is an issue with the frame counter. It is off by as much as -5fps. When you see 9-10 frames its actually 14-15


I have done no texture hacks and incorporated only the reduced AI tree and building fixes along with fine tuning the FSX.cfg file and nvidia drivers with assistance from NickN. I also did his complete system optimizing.

FSX runs better than I thought it would with the following scenery settings:

[Display]
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=120 // I sometimes reduce this to 80 because of stutters in large cities
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=18 // = 22-23 with the frame counter issue
WideViewAspect=True // I recently purchased a 24 inch wide screen monitor

[Main]
DisablePreload=1
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.25

[GRAPHICS]
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024
NUM_LIGHTS=8
AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
AC_SELF_SHADOW=1

[Weather]
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=3
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=1

[SCENERY]
SmallPartRejectRadius=1.0
LENSFLARE=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5

[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=20
GADensity=20
FreewayDensity=15
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=25
LeisureBoatsDensity=25
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=2

[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=4.500000
MESH_COMPLEXITY=100
MESH_RESOLUTION=22 // I run FSGenesis 10m mesh
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=25
AUTOGEN_DENSITY=3
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_EFFECTS=4
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=1800
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=800

[BufferPools]
PoolSize=2500000

FSUIPC has been identified as a source of frame reduction under certain conditions. There is some type of issue between that DLL and sim connect that causes stutters and loss of resoruces. I removed it. They are aware of the problem and working on a fix which as I recall will require an update from Microsoft for sim connect which is also currently being developed.

From what I have read Microsoft is considering some changes to the patch currently in the works that addresses lower end hardware issues

I have a test file, but you need add-on traffic (tons!) for it to be able to compare it to mine.

A321, EDDF, 100% Traffic, Cloudy skies.

12-15 FPS from the VC.

Otherwise, they vary from 10 to 50 in flight, in the VC, they're 10-25.


And consider my settings maxed.

Would it be the processor or the video card that would make more of a difference? I want to get an 8800GS, but I just got this one done...so I'll probably wait til the summer. I got my processor overclocked to 2.6GHz running at about 52C. Haven't tested FSX yet, but I doubt it'll make too much of a difference. I have my scenery set to normal and autogen to sparce, trilinear filtering, texture detail is maxed, detail radius is at medium, mesh complexity is at 70, mesh res it at 30, texture res is at 60cm, and that's all I can remember.
Also, how do you overclock a video card?

How do you find out what your frames are?

Would it be the processor or the video card that would make more of a difference?

The CPU definately.

An 8800GTS wouldn't be a good companion for your rather "weak" 3700+. The GFX card gets bored since your CPU can't hold up.
I recommend at least a Core2Duo E6300.
The problem is that you'd need a new mainboard and maybe(!) new Ram.

Would it be the processor or the video card that would make more of a difference?

The CPU definately.

An 8800GTS wouldn't be a good companion for your rather "weak" 3700+. The GFX card gets bored since your CPU can't hold up.
I recommend at least a Core2Duo E6300.
The problem is that you'd need a new mainboard and maybe(!) new Ram.

Well, I can't get a new mobo. Can you reccomend any good AMD socket 939's?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103558

That's the one I had in mind...

An 8800GTS wouldn't be a good companion for your rather "weak" 3700+. The GFX card gets bored since your CPU can't hold up.
I recommend at least a Core2Duo E6300.
The problem is that you'd need a new mainboard and maybe(!) new Ram.

I'd bet an over-clocked 3700 with it's meg of L2 would be waitng on even a 8800GTS card with any kind of med-high scenery settings.  A 7800GT is definately the bottleneck for a 3700. Actually.. I'll bet a 3700 and 8800 are a pretty good match for each other.

I got my video card OC'd to 1750MHz memory and 620MHz 3D freq. Processor is at 2.7GHz and 43C idle. It was up to 52C running battlefield 2.

What's the highest temp. it could be at and still be alright?