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Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:11 am
by vololiberista
In this BBC news report it states Vista will be available in 6 versions including one for "developing countries" Could someone explain what they mean by that!!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6130604.stm
Vololiberista

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:48 am
by flymo
thats weird never seen that before

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:48 am
by Hagar
This might explain it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4754462.stm

VISTA VERSIONS

Vista Business
Vista Enterprise
Vista Home Basic
Vista Home Premium
Vista Ultimate
Vista Starter


The Starter edition is a streamlined version intended for low powered PCs found in many developing nations.

Also note: Also available will be versions made specifically for Europe that, in accordance with an EU mandate, remove the Windows media player.

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:57 am
by flymo
sod the EU mandate i want WMP cos its the best media player for music library's IMHO

john

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:20 pm
by vololiberista
sod the EU mandate i want WMP cos its the best media player for music library's IMHO

john
It's all about choice! WMP wrecked my sound card conguration when I upgraded to XP. I couldn't play my midi files because the WMP sound font is cr@p!!!
I had to wait until I could get a newer card that circumvented WMP. And BTW I don't think it's the best and I therefore would like to choose another and the EU directive allows me to do that and not be dictated to by a monopoly that forces me to use their products only. I still don't know whether or not the issue over "kernel access" has been resolved. As that also comes under the EU directive.
Vololiberista
PS In answer to Hagar most of the comments in that news article are quite negative!!!!  Another rush job like FSX??? :o

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:32 pm
by Hagar
[quote]PS In answer to Hagar most of the comments in that news article are quite negative!!!!

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:46 pm
by vololiberista
Not sure which article you mean. You seem to have some pretty negative views yourself. :P

I'm not sure what you mean about WMP anyway. Even if it ships with the OS nobody is forcing you to use it. With all versions of Windows I've used from 3.1 thru XP it's a simple matter to assign any software you wish as the default program for different file extensions.


First I'm talking about the article in "your" post!!

And on your second point, if that were indeed the case the EU wouldn't have won it's court battle against M(qualcosa)s in America and M(qualcosa)s wouldn't therefore be paying a huge daily fine as of now.  The first time one installs XP as an "upgrade" it produces a list of hardware and software that it doesn't like!! Not only did it cripple my 5.1 sound card but killed my then version of "Cakewalk". Obviously if one has used WMP always as "the one" then that

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:59 pm
by Hagar
I can't argue as I've never updated to WinXP from a previous version of Windows. I purchased this machine with the UK version of WinXP installed. It's quite likely that the Cakewalk software you had been using was incompatible with WinXP & simply needed updating. I don't believe that it won't work with WinXP. http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/default.asp

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:07 pm
by Woodlouse2002
iTunes puts WMP in it's place no problems. :)

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:53 pm
by born_2_fly
Am I missing something? Why is WMP got a ruleling against it in an EU mandate? Am I breaking the law?!  ;D

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:29 pm
by vololiberista
I can't argue as I've never updated to WinXP from a previous version of Windows. I purchased this machine with the UK version of WinXP installed. It's quite likely that the Cakewalk software you had been using was incompatible with WinXP & simply needed updating. I don't believe that it won't work with WinXP. http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/default.asp

"Now" most software co's like Cakewalk and Itunes are able to get round the coding that only allows WMP. I am talking about a time shortly after XP came onto the market. Not "now!"

No one is breaking the law by using WMP. Only M(qualcosa)s fell foul of the EU's position on monopolies, by packaging WMP in such a way that users were forced to use it and not third party software.. If you are European don't rush out and buy Vista "when" it comes out unless you are absolutely certain it is the European version. unless of course you want M(qualcosa)s to do your virus checking!!!!   (I don't!!!!)
Vololiberista

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:35 pm
by Hagar
From what I can make out Microsoft & Cakewalk are working together & have been for some time. http://aes.harmony-central.com/121AES/Content/Cakewalk/PR/Fast-Forward-Sonar-6-Tour.html

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:29 pm
by Woodlouse2002
And you'll have a hard time buying a non european copy of Vista in Europe. Just like the European copies will be like hens teeth in the states.

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:20 pm
by Daube
[quote]
"Now" most software co's like Cakewalk and Itunes are able to get round the coding that only allows WMP. I am talking about a time shortly after XP came onto the market. Not "now!"

No one is breaking the law by using WMP. Only M(qualcosa)s fell foul of the EU's position on monopolies, by packaging WMP in such a way that users were forced to use it and not third party software.. If you are European don't rush out and buy Vista "when" it comes out unless you are absolutely certain it is the European version. unless of course you want M(qualcosa)s to do your virus checking!!!!

Re: Question about Vista

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:14 am
by DizZa
You can just remove Windows Media player.

Also if a new windows install messes up your soundcard, then it's your sound cards makers fault.

It's like saying: "It's Microsofts fault that my sound card dosn't work on a new windows install because Microsoft didn't make my sound card drivers".

it comes out unless you are absolutely certain it is the European version. unless of course you want M(qualcosa)s to do your virus checking!!!!   (I don't!!!!)

Why is that?

Another rush job like FSX

FsX wasn't rushed. Please stop saying that without any firsthand knowledge of the product.