Major improvements?

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Major improvements?

Postby Flt.Lt.Andrew » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:25 am

Hey,

Has it just been me or am I the only one who has noticed a lack of "major improvements" ?

I noticed:

a) The cockpits were EXCEELENT
b) the handling was more realistic
c) More user friendly
d) updated interface
e) Improved water textures

but also:

a) Same terrain
b) Same token cars, etc
c) Lack of animalia
d) Small amount of air traffic.


A.


P.S for the record I should note it worked perfectly on my Dell 8400.
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby Mav_316 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:37 am

once again it is a demo and you are not going to see everything that FSX has to offer! The purpose of this demo is to wet your pallet and make you hungry.

What I conceed in is that I can't wait for the full full version because seeing what the default looks like and what designers can create. FSX is going to be one Awesome flight sim experience.

So relax and tweak around the demo to get what you want out of it for right now!
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby Overspeed » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:37 am

b) the handling was more realistic


im not sure if it is just the movement of fs9 a/c into fsx, but i placed the opensky crj-900 into it, and it flies like a fighter, handles like one too...

in fact, i could get the beaver to do pretty much the same... ::)
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby Ashton Lawson » Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:07 am

I don't like demos...  They always take out the good bits... >:(

But then again, maybe the definition of 'demo' has changed... :P
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:47 am

Hey,

Has it just been me or am I the only one who has noticed a lack of "major improvements" ?


a) Same terrain
b) Same token cars, etc
c) Lack of animalia
d) Small amount of air traffic.




Its just you because your wrong about every item on that list.

a. FS9 cannot render terrain at anywhere near the same resolution
b. FS9 has moving cars on the roads? FS9 has default moving AI boats?
c. Demo.. Full version
d. It would be hard to have allot of AI traffic when the only aircraft that came with the FSX demo was a ultralite, a lear jet, a Baron and a Beaver.
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby Katahu » Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:55 am

Of course there's only a small amount of traffic in the demo. Microsoft had to keep the demo as small as possible so that dial-up users can stand a chance in successfully downloading it.
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby Joe_D » Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:41 am

One point.....

The  resolution of the ground textures do not seem to be any higher than in FS-9.

Perhaps the texture resolution was purposly kept low to limit the demo size?
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby South » Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:44 am

Have you tried stepping up the settings? :P

I was amazed at the demo.
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:45 am

[quote]One point.....

The
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby x_jasper » Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:59 am

If the demo had all the stuff you want to see, it'd probably run into gigabytes.

To be fair, the demo does show the potential on offer. It just remains to be seen if the release will have the usual embedded dirty tricks.

Also if they learned anything from FS9 and CFS3 they will know the average consumer these days is smarter than he/she used to be, and for example will expect--even demand  certain levels of quality control in this one.

MS if you are reading: "Put wing incidence back in, don't lock the tailwheels round the wrong way, model altitude correctly, and for heavens sake understand an ENGINE RPM GAUGE is for ENGINE RPM! not prop speed, not prop pitch, not prop pitch control pressure----nothing else, just engine RPM. In this way the gauge will register as it should do, and not as a gauge for some ficticious 'constant speed engine'. >:(
I'll be happy if you can manage these things.
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby Joe_D » Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:39 pm

Yes, the demo definately does show the potential of FSX and I'm looking foreward to it.

However, it seems that with each release, problems, things that would be basically easy to fix, always seem to find its way into final.

Let's hope this does not happen with FSX. :)
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby Kaworu » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:28 pm

i'm happy just with the improvments in the demo, the missions look fun. i like the idea of a "theme song". nice gimic. any one flown low to the water. it has AMAZING animations

quite simply, i predicted that fsx demo would have major problems on my pc (just like fs9:-[ ), it did , but i was amazed that fsx has better textures, fetures (animated cars/boats), ect, but at no loss of fram rates. i was very surprised.

my only complaint is that the cocpit windows were gray from inside the cocpit. any explanations. i expect it's something i can fix on my pc.

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Re: Major improvements?

Postby Katahu » Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:11 pm

my only complaint is that the cocpit windows were gray from inside the cocpit. any explanations. i expect it's something i can fix on my pc.


It has been confirmed by some of us that the issue of not being able to see through the windows in the DVC is normally hardware related. For example, I [and a few others] don't have the problem with the non-see-through windows so therefore it is not a demo glitch. However, I do tend to have this problem when testing out certain FS9-based addons in the demo.

What the surprised me the most from this demo is that fact that the demo is more stable than FS9. Of course, the loading time is rediculous [about 5-10 minutes] but the sim remains remarkably stable and frame-rate friendly at certain settings.

For example: I had the display settings set to the following:

1. Autogen and scenery complexity set to "very sparse"

2. Mesh complexity set to 70.

3. AI Traffic turned off [all of them].

4. Terrain resolusion and all other settings related to main scenery textures set to "maximum". That includes the water.

5. Effects detail set to minimum.

At these settings, the frame rates were astounding. In FS9, my computer still struggles even when absolutely "all" settings have been minimized. This is not the case for FSX.

The effects detail setting seems to effect certain aspects of the water's reflections [the higher the setting, the lower the frames] while the autogen and other scenery objects seem to be the main culprits when it comes frame rate loss.

I guess the long loading time was inevitable due to the amount of details that the FS community has demanded just as how higher hardware requirements have become. In FS9, the only reason we had loading times is when we filled up our hard drives with hundreds of addons that reached the GBs.
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby cleobis » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:54 pm

One point.....

The  resolution of the ground textures do not seem to be any higher than in FS-9.

Perhaps the texture resolution was purposly kept low to limit the demo size?


I'm not even bothered about how perfect the demo, or even the full version, size of the textures are...

The main thing is that if you look close at the settings bars, you can see that FSX will support mesh of 1m (!!!!!) and ground textures of 7cm!!!!

These are real key things!!! I don't care what microsoft will give us, because I know that in the future it can display a LOT more!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Major improvements?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:47 pm


Of course, the loading time is rediculous [about 5-10 minutes] but the sim remains remarkably stable and frame-rate friendly at certain settings.
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30 second load time here... if that long


Your settings are way too high and I suspect your hard drive is fragmented to death if it take that long to load


check my FS9.cfg thread out

It should provide a REASONABLE and realistic base for settings

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/ ... 1155505238
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