New vid, showing detailed cockpit

[Daube]

That, and IL-2 is a combat sim. Take off, blow stuff up, and return. It's not really ment for real-life navigation.

I wasn't taking about the sim itself, but more about the way the cockpits are modelled.

[frnchy444]

If every plane needs a VC, should every VC need legs, a shoulder when you look out the window and moving hands as you advance the throttle??? 2D panels are in a way actually more realistic...

[Daube]

If every plane needs a VC, should every VC need legs, a shoulder when you look out the window and moving hands as you advance the throttle???

Yes they should, just like those car sims that won't let you select the gear while you were using your handbrake. These are added real-life difficulties, which  I call "realism".

2D panels are in a way actually more realistic...

2D panels are easier to use, and offer the user a way to avoid some real life issues, like accessing some buttons or gauges while trying to keep an eye outside toward 10 or 2 o'clock...

[Ashton Lawson]

I find that 2d panels may be more friendly, in some ways, but a prefer the VCockpit for these reasons:

1.  I can look around with the hat switch
2.  I can position my 'head' anywhere I want in the cockpit
    (thanks to my Saitek X45's 3 hat switches and mouse switch)
3.  It just gives more of a sense of realism
4.  I find that alot of the 2D cockpits take up too much of the screen, so I don't know where I'm flying

I don't particularly want MS to get rid of the 2D panels, its just that I don't like'em much.

But then again, alot of people can't model the VCs so I just fly outside.

[swordfish1227]

In Aces High you only have 1 cockpit that combines elements of both fs9 cockpits. it is a snap view environment and has extremely smooth gauges. it also has full animation of the yoke/stick/pedals.

(If any of you have played Aces High you will know what i'm talking about.)