FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

[JBaymore]

[quote]That's technically illegal and in fact there are many cases annually involving EULA disputes.

[vololiberista]

vololiberista,

Hummmmmmmm....... speaking of people doing illegal things........

The cartoon image you posted above appears to me to have the copyright symbol on the bottom.  The picture clearly came from another website.  

Did you obtain permission from the copyright holder to copy it and repost it here on SimV?


best,

......john

Good point  ;D our lawyers need to talk to each other!!!!!!!!
First of all the pic was sent to me many years ago by email, so it would be correct to say that it has been in the public domain at least since then.
I understand that it also already exists here in this forum under the humour section. I've no idea which post but i would bet that any copyright has not been aknowledged!!!!!!
You can see this whole thing is a minefield  from which only the lawyers benefit!!!!!!!
Vololiberista

[JBaymore]

First of all the pic was sent to me many years ago by email, so it would be correct to say that it has been in the public domain at least since then.

The publication of a work of art (by any means) does not place it in the public domain.

[757200ba]

hey guys dont forget one thing, when you buy something(in this case software, and this has been already said) the only thing you cant do is make copy of that prog.
KNow everytime you change something in your pc you have to tell it to MICROSOFT please (i take resposability on this )
F...... it i've payed the program the authors have been payed so we are not taking money of the guys that worked on the program, is somethong that is ours.........well it isnt is just rented to us.
   imagine this now everybody just thought on leaving FSX on the stores nobody would buy a copy.Interesting let me tell you what could happen.Somebody  would buy it make a crack for it and everybody would have a copy (if it is for free or not thats not what im saying here) what was MS goinfg to do....NOTHING if we finish buying they're products and we move for something like i dont know LINUX or MAC what do you think MS would do probably make FSXII without this defenses? I dont know, but one thing i think is stupid, is a game (and believe me i LOVE FS ) that controls our pcs after we pay the price they whant.Came on even MS came with the patch of no cd.
This is my view i dont want to offend nobody.
Many thanks
Cheers

[ForceMd]

Hello all,

I am new to the forums and to Flight Simulation in general. I just ordered X-Plane (another flight simulation program) and was just reading about the new FSX trying to decide if I want this one too. (From my recent web researching, it is apparent that the MSFS series is unmatched in its detail and 3rd party support and add-ons).

To be honest, the only reason that I am even hesitating to purchase FSX is because of the registration. Don't get me wrong. I am all for piracy prevention. In fact IMHO, piracy is more widespread than the media portrays it to be (contrary to the opinion that the media blows this out of proportion).

My beef is with the fact that software companies (particularly MS) do not implement more consumer friendly piracy control. It would be easier for me, the consumer; if for instance, I registered my newly purchased software online with a Username/Password that would track my activation. This way, when I upgrade my system, or purchase a new computer I would be able to re-activate online using my username/password.  (Of course, the complex key generation and tracking would still be in effect and associated with my account). Any software that attempted to run on my previous hardware (or any other hardware besides the hardware that I specifically registered) would be halted the next time it attempted to connect to the internet. (Lets face it, in this day and age; the majority of computers will be connected to the internet throughout their lifetime).

I have no problems with, having to register and activate any software, provided that it doesn't limit me as a consumer. The two hardware registration limit was not as much a problem for Windows OSs because now it is easier, and probably cheaper, to just purchase a new PC (which comes with the OS installed most of the time) than to put one together yourself.

(I say this with the assumption that a graphics card upgrade, memory upgrade or hard drive upgrade can be done without reactivation)

[vololiberista]

Ciao, welcome to SimV your first post!!!!
The whole porcess of activation and or registration has become a minefield. I personally think it is quite wrong for a softaware co. to say that once you have bought their product you can use it only twice!!
For example Win XP is a nightmare a: to transfer onto a new disc and b:if you have upgraded the MB. I own my hardware it has nothing to do with any software co. I am entitled to upgrade my hardware as and when I see fit. Not when the software co. tells me to!
Yes, piracy is a problem and all of us here are against it (I hope!!!) But the software co's are using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
As for your coments about FSX I personally will wait a while. Firstly because it will need a "significant" hardware upgrade. Secondly it really has been designed for use under Vista and DX10 both of which are still under development. I prefer to wait and see how it looks when all is up and running. I'm sure you have seen some "heated" debate on the subject in this forum.
Buoni voli.
Vololiberista

[RollerBall]

This seems to be going round in circles a bit here.

This 'two times' thing as I understand it is so a single user can have it on 2 machines. You can have it on your home PC and on your laptop, for example, so you can take it on holiday with you  :)

You can install and uninstall it as many times as you want on those 2 machines because activation is related to a hardware signature.

And you can deinstall it from your PC and install it on a new PC - but then you may have to confirm that it has been deinstalled.

A few weeks ago I had to reinstall Windows on a client's PC - the old problem, kids keep going onto file sharing sites and picking up trojans and stuff. Because it had been done several times in the past, activation on line said 'No chum' and I had to call MS.

Got a errrr.... young person ......  in somewhere like Nicaragua I think  ;), all he did was ask that the OS was still only on one machine, when I said 'Yup', he gave me a new key.

Pain in the butt but I don't have that much of a problem so long as it's as easy as that.

And volo - the UK is in Europe (unfortunately..... but that's completely another issue  ??? )

[JBaymore]

In fact IMHO, piracy is more widespread than the media portrays it to be (contrary to the opinion that the media blows this out of proportion).

ForceMD,

First of all .... welcome to SimV.  I hope that you can find information here that helps you maker sound decisions.

You are right about the terrible level of piracy thing.  All you have to do to grasp the level of the problem is to look here at so many of the responses to anti-piracy threads and to the people that feel the EULA is an "optional" agreement that the authors have no right to stipulate or enforce.

Do some more "digging" here at SimV before you make your final decision.  And maybe make sure your machine is up to the demands of FSX if you want to run it with the sliders anywhre near maxed out.

Good luck.... and we hope to see you here at SimV more in the future.

best,

........john

[vololiberista]

This is interesting..................
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6095612.stm

Vololiberista

[ForceMd]

Hey all,

   Thanks for the warm welcome and the information. I think I will wait on the FSX purchase.

I just recieved X-Plane V 8.50 in the mail (I ordered this just before I discovered this site) and this program seems like it will keep me busy for a while. It is HUGE; (8 DVDs) and can take up 60 gigs of hard drive space depending on how much scenery of the world you want to install. I have not started to install it yet, but I have been reading other sites on the program. and it is a highly technical (and highly configurable) program.

I will still be poking in this forum to get news on FSX, but for now, at least, I've got my hands full with X-Plane.

P.S.
I also orderd the CH pro pedals and CH yoke to do this flight simming thing the right way:)

James  

[JBaymore]

P.S.
I also orderd the CH pro pedals and CH yoke to do this flight simming thing the right way:)

James,

You'll love those two items.  They make a world of difference.

best,

.....john

[Katahu]

[quote]Hey all,

[JBaymore]

Just remember that X-Plane was built for the dynamic accuracy of aircraft at the expense of graphics while the FS series was designed to graphics at the expense of dynamic accuracy.

Aitn't it too bad that we can't breed the two of them to get puppies.

[Mozz]

I always thought Steam was a good system for piracy prevention and 3rd party/add-on support. At least, I prefer that to online activation 2x and then a toll free number for the rest of your life  ::) .

[bbstackerf]

This is a direct quote from MS's Help and support page concerning the activation issue.:

"A6: Microsoft Product Activation verifies that a software program's product key has not been used on more personal computers than the software's license allows. The product key can be used only on one computer. To run a game on two or more computers, purchase additional copies."

You can only install FSX LEGALLY on one computer.

Happy day.

Keni