FSX & SLI

[justpassingthrough]

^ Lookin' good!

Check your PM

Checked and back-atch-a


With the right zoom, lighting and angle, its not hard to accomplish

Hilarious PM's! They were great.

I didn't know you were a professional screenshot taker too, lmao!

Naaaa.. just ---way--- too damn old to fly anymore so I have to have something to do in order to get my fix

[Black ZR-1]

I have re-taken the shots without saving the same flight this time. No rebooting.

Settings:







From an 8 - 9 loss from before, I've dropped down to 4, sometimes 5.

[justpassingthrough]

I have re-taken the shots without saving the same flight this time. No rebooting.

Settings:







From an 8 - 9 loss from before, I've dropped down to 4, sometimes 5.

Ya know... you are running an 8800 and a core2. Im running a 7900 and a x2 4800+

You are getting the same frame (actually worse) than I am, and I am running higher scenery sliders and given the way that image displays on widescreen, at this point I have to say, sumthin ain't right


Humor an old man.. when I post back, try the entire set of settings I suggest and lets see what happpens because if there is no change, I have to say that there must be a hardware or driver problem in your system. I have to leave but will post back in a few hours

[Black ZR-1]

Ok, Miltest, I followed your FSX config file.

The only sliders I changed were Water Effects High 1.x, GA Aircraft to 10%, Scenery Complexity: Dense & Autogen Density: Normal. Otherwise I was getting 10 - 11 FPS.

I now basically have the same settings that I had before (see 'Settings Screenshot above') except for Water Effects High 1.x



An increase of 1 FPS....

Note: my CPU & GPU are overclocked as well. CPU: OC'ed 10%. GPU: OC'ed 575/900 (GTX settings).

[mroseland]

Doesn't it make sense though that your FPS would be lower when running in wide screen due to more things having to be drawn?

Great thread by the way; I've learned a ton.

[justpassingthrough]

I understand. What I do not understand is how my system can perform the same or better than yours in the same scene. I set my system and sim up to your monitor scale and had no significant reduction in frames. Also, the wing tips were both on the screen like they were in the 1900x1280 shots so I am not sure what is going on with your system.

I assume you have not made any terrain.cfg or camera.cfg file edits and those files are the originals?

I want to try the following just to see what happens.

1. Save a copy of your current FSX.cfg file, then delete the original from the FSX directory.

2. Start the sim, it will write a new config file. Set everything up as follows. You can turn off the silly sound that plays.

Please pay careful attention to each area.. you will notice things like aircraft labels are OFF. Please set up FSX as I show below!!

NOTE: I made some changes after snaging these shots so please note the changes.

frame lock is at 24, not 28.






Set the MESH RESOLUTION to 19m, not 10m





Set GA to 20 and Airlines to 40 Road Vehicles to 10



Anything else is up to you but for now, leave it at default. Save and close FSX.

3. Open the newly written FSX.cfg file, scroll down and change/edit ONLY the following

[Display]

[justpassingthrough]

Doesn't it make sense though that your FPS would be lower when running in wide screen due to more things having to be drawn?

Great thread by the way; I've learned a ton.

Yes, I agree and mine drops as well, but not 8 frames and what he is getting with a 8800 card makes no sense. I suspect there is more to this than settings but we must start with them first and work our way backwards.

[Nick N]

I have re-taken the shots without saving the same flight this time. No rebooting.

Settings:







From an 8 - 9 loss from before, I've dropped down to 4, sometimes 5.

Ya know... you are running an 8800 and a core2. Im running a 7900 and a x2 4800+

You are getting the same frame (actually worse) than I am, and I am running higher scenery sliders and given the way that image displays on widescreen, at this point I have to say, sumthin ain't right


Humor an old man.. when I post back, try the entire set of settings I suggest and lets see what happpens because if there is no change, I have to say that there must be a hardware or driver problem in your system. I have to leave but will post back in a few hours

John, he is running a E6300 with a 8800GTS. Thats not much better than a well overclocked A64 x2 4800+ with a stock running x1950xtx. Your assumptions are a bit inaccurate because his hardware is not as good as you may think it is. The E6300 is not any where near as powerful as the E6700 and in tests the E6300 actually looses to many AMD processors in gaming performance. Your running a very high clocked system, a 4800+ on PC4400 memory which we maxed out. I would like to bet your system (with the exception of the video card and bus) is probably the same if not faster than his in CPU/memory for gaming. The only thing you lack is the video power and you would probably run faster than him.

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Black_ZR-1:

I do agree with miltestpilot that there is something about the aspect ratio on you're flat panel which does not appear correct.

John (miltestpilot) asked me to montor this thread. He also asked me to sign back up to these forums (hes been on me for weeks

[microlight]

Welcome back, Nick! (Even if only on an occasional basis...)

[Black ZR-1]

I have re-taken the shots without saving the same flight this time. No rebooting.

Settings:







From an 8 - 9 loss from before, I've dropped down to 4, sometimes 5.

Ya know... you are running an 8800 and a core2. Im running a 7900 and a x2 4800+

You are getting the same frame (actually worse) than I am, and I am running higher scenery sliders and given the way that image displays on widescreen, at this point I have to say, sumthin ain't right


Humor an old man.. when I post back, try the entire set of settings I suggest and lets see what happpens because if there is no change, I have to say that there must be a hardware or driver problem in your system. I have to leave but will post back in a few hours

John, he is running a E6300 with a 8800GTS. Thats not much better than a well overclocked A64 x2 4800+ with a stock running x1950xtx. Your assumptions are a bit inaccurate because his hardware is not as good as you may think it is. The E6300 is not any where near as powerful as the E6700 and in tests the E6300 actually looses to many AMD processors in gaming performance. Your running a very high clocked system, a 4800+ on PC4400 memory which we maxed out. I would like to bet your system (with the exception of the video card and bus) is probably the same if not faster than his in CPU/memory for gaming. The only thing you lack is the video power and you would probably run faster than him.

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Black_ZR-1:

I do agree with miltestpilot that there is something about the aspect ratio on you're flat panel which does not appear correct.

John (miltestpilot) asked me to montor this thread. He also asked me to sign back up to these forums (hes been on me for weeks

[justpassingthrough]

[quote]
John, he is running a E6300 with a 8800GTS. Thats not much better than a well overclocked A64 x2 4800+ with a stock running x1950xtx. Your assumptions are a bit inaccurate because his hardware is not as good as you may think it is. The E6300 is not any where near as powerful as the E6700 and in tests the E6300 actually looses to many AMD processors in gaming performance. Your running a very high clocked system, a 4800+ on PC4400 memory which we maxed out. I would like to bet your system (with the exception of the video card and bus) is probably the same if not faster than his in CPU/memory for gaming. The only thing you lack is the video power and you would probably run faster than him.

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Black_ZR-1:

I do agree with miltestpilot that there is something about the aspect ratio on you're flat panel which does not appear correct.

John (miltestpilot) asked me to montor this thread. He also asked me to sign back up to these forums (hes been on me for weeks

[Nick N]

[quote][quote]
John, he is running a E6300 with a 8800GTS. Thats not much better than a well overclocked A64 x2 4800+ with a stock running x1950xtx. Your assumptions are a bit inaccurate because his hardware is not as good as you may think it is. The E6300 is not any where near as powerful as the E6700 and in tests the E6300 actually looses to many AMD processors in gaming performance. Your running a very high clocked system, a 4800+ on PC4400 memory which we maxed out. I would like to bet your system (with the exception of the video card and bus) is probably the same if not faster than his in CPU/memory for gaming. The only thing you lack is the video power and you would probably run faster than him.

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Black_ZR-1:

I do agree with miltestpilot that there is something about the aspect ratio on you're flat panel which does not appear correct.

John (miltestpilot) asked me to montor this thread. He also asked me to sign back up to these forums (hes been on me for weeks

[ATI_7500]

The same goes for video cards. The 8800GTS is really lacking as compared to the GTX model.

True. It lacks both the Ram (768 - 640) and I think texture pipes compared to the GTX.

However their R600 due to be released over the next month or so, will in fact run circles around it.

Got delayed, as far as I've heard.

New date will be may.

[Nick N]

Nick, I think I've come to a conclusion that indeed my 6300 is the bottleneck. I will see if I can get my hands on a 6600 or higher. But I too am confused about my aspect ratio. I'm running on it's native resolution 1680 x 1050 x 32.

Miltest, thank you for the config settings. I will do everything you wrote as soon as I get home from work tonight. I'll keep you guys posted!

Yes, you are bottle-necked by the E6300 however with the right motherboard and memory product that can be overcome (somewhat). I have always recommended the E6700 over a lower purchase Core2 because, unlike the 3700+ and the FX series, it will in fact run a very close 2nd to the E6800 if clocked up and costs significantly less. That also requires one purchase a motherboard that supports the faster memory products and allows clocking.

FSX is very, very CPU dependant, much more so than FS9.

Upgrading you're processor will help quite a bit but it won't be a miracle upgrade without the faster, low latency memory.

Check the BIOS for the 1T CMD setting. This is AKA: Command Rate, 2T Command, CMD Timing, etc. You want that set to 1T. If you're system is unstable at 1T you have the memory tL set too low, the frequency too high or the sticks need the higher functions set maually because the AUTO bios settings are not correct. If you can not run 1T CMD with the stick @ default, then the memory product is not up to the task and needs to be upgraded.

1T CMD will add more to the performance on the memory bus than any other tweak or change you can make. The rest in over-clocking is multiplied by that being enabled.

As for the aspect ratio, I am not sure but it is very possible the issue is in the bios of the monitor itself. I saw you had the wrong cable installed. I am wondering if during the video/monitor driver install process something went a-miss because the cable was telling the system you were not on a TFT at the time.

Just a thought.

[Nick N]

The same goes for video cards. The 8800GTS is really lacking as compared to the GTX model.

True. It lacks both the Ram (768 - 640) and I think texture pipes compared to the GTX.

However their R600 due to be released over the next month or so, will in fact run circles around it.

Got delayed, as far as I've heard.

New date will be may.

Yes it did. As for dates, no one is sure of that. ATi is actually being smart about this release. The last time they pre-released before DX9, they ended up in hot water for a year. Much of the so-called 'delay' (I think) has to do with releasing a card that will not suffer issues or be behind the 8-ball when DX10 games and patches are actually released. The 8800 will be behind the 8-ball. As far as I am concerned it never should have been branded a fully functional DX10 card. It should have been branded the best DX9 card money can buy which will run DX10 applications. Run and rip-through are 2 different things as eveyone found out when DX9 was released.



the 8800GTX supports 128 unified shaders, 1/3rd more MT/s and a substantial GB bandwith increase over the 8800GTS. You can over-clock a GTS till it screams and never hit GTX performance. Its just like over-clocking processors and you do get what you pay for.