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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby NickN » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:42 am

Gary

Your going about this the hard way

You do not need to hit F-6 and install the 3ware drivers because the Raptor is not on the 3ware controller, its on the motherboard SATA plugs. As long as the Raptor is seen during Windows installl, thats ALL you need to show up. Install Windows on the Raptor and after Windows is installed, install the 3ware drivers/interface so the card and array appear.
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby truck911 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:47 am


Gary

Your going about this the hard way

You do not need to hit F-6 and install the 3ware drivers because the Raptor is not on the 3ware controller, its on the motherboard SATA plugs. As long as the Raptor is seen during Windows installl, thats ALL you need to show up. Install Windows on the Raptor and after Windows is installed, install the 3ware drivers/interface so the card and array appear.


Nick, I went to the school of hard knocks what can I say. :)

Nick do I want to put the page file on the array? ::)
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby NickN » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:15 am


Gary

Your going about this the hard way

You do not need to hit F-6 and install the 3ware drivers because the Raptor is not on the 3ware controller, its on the motherboard SATA plugs. As long as the Raptor is seen during Windows installl, thats ALL you need to show up. Install Windows on the Raptor and after Windows is installed, install the 3ware drivers/interface so the card and array appear.


Nick, I went to the school of hard knocks what can I say. :)

Nick do I want to put the page file on the array? ::)


No, what does my list say to do?

it goes on the Windows drive and its set to a defined amount

You will never use the page file if you have enough memory
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby truck911 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:59 am

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Sorry Nick, been a while and so many things I forgot.  Ok, here I go again for the full gambit of optimizations and FS installs, defrags my gosh.

thxs again for the help Nick.

Nick you still want 3072 page file on 4GB ram?  
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby NickN » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:21 pm

The page file is needed by Windows even if it never accesses it for extended memory use. It is still used by programs as an allocation table. It does not mean the application will use the file, it means the program has access to it and allows that program to allocate space on it, if it did need to use it.

Turning off the page file is a no-no
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby truck911 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:12 pm


The page file is needed by Windows even if it never accesses it for extended memory use. It is still used by programs as an allocation table. It does not mean the application will use the file, it means the program has access to it and allows that program to allocate space on it, if it did need to use it.

Turning off the page file is a no-no


I was actually wondering about Microsofts recommendation of one and a half times the amount of your physical ram.  Maybe that is too much I was just curious why not 4088 or something.  Anyway 3072 it is.
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby NickN » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:46 pm

MS rec's???

ROFL

MS rec's are based on generics, not reality

@ 4GB 3072 is more than enough.. its only there for allocation

if this is a 32bit OS, you must make sure the OS is marked for >2GB use and you must be on FSX sp2 to get >2GB support if FSX or mark the application manually
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby truck911 » Sun May 18, 2008 12:39 am

Nick question, when I added the array by going through disc management, I was asked if I wanted to format the drive.  I said yes and reformated the FSX drive.  I was not asked to specify a stripe size.  Did this ruin my 256 stripe?

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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby NickN » Sun May 18, 2008 8:15 am

[quote]Nick question, when I added the array by going through disc management, I was asked if I wanted to format the drive.
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby truck911 » Sun May 18, 2008 9:22 am

As always I appreciate the help.  Thank you again Nick.
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby truck911 » Mon May 19, 2008 10:05 am


MS rec's???

ROFL

MS rec's are based on generics, not reality

@ 4GB 3072 is more than enough.. its only there for allocation

if this is a 32bit OS, you must make sure the OS is marked for >2GB use and you must be on FSX sp2 to get >2GB support if FSX or mark the application manually

Nick ever see type or brand of memory cause an OOM issue?

Reason is this; and I have not validated the issue. I was running 4x1GB DDR800 Corsair.
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby NickN » Mon May 19, 2008 12:33 pm

OOM has nothing to do with the page file.. to prove that... switch it from a defined value to "system managed"... if the same OOM occurs, its not the page

For OOM's and 4GB... please follow these directions carefully:

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 08959973#3

if you still see a OOM, reduce the value from 2560 to 2432 and reboot

If you still see a OOM I suspect a scenery issue at that point

Black squares poping up when they are related to lights is a know issue.. it happens on mine from time to time too when I come in range of an airport and the VASI lights are seen... for a split second I may catch a black square where the light texture is located for VASI. It can also happen if I am chaning or panning view and an airport in the distance comes into view. I have also see that on the aircraft lights from time to time

As mentioned, try dropping the value as see if it may change the result

also, if the BUFFERPOOL edit in the config is in use and the value set too high it can cause graphic 'spikes' related to memory being overrun.
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby truck911 » Mon May 19, 2008 2:11 pm

OOM has nothing to do with the page file.. to prove that... switch it from a defined value to "system managed"... if the same OOM occurs, its not the page


Sorry Nick, I did not mean to imply that I thought the issue was related to the page file.  I just didn't want to start a new post so I rode on the back of that one.

I think the squares were when I saw lights Nick.  I will confirm and if only on the lights all is well.  Otherwise I will try as you have suggested.  thxs again Nick.
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby truck911 » Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:13 am

[quote][quote]Nick question, when I added the array by going through disc management, I was asked if I wanted to format the drive.
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Re: Clean Install question from Truck911

Postby NickN » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:32 am

Yes, it can be a gain... but its not about a huge performance leap

Increasing cluster size by formatting with a 3rd party disk tool like Partition magic or Acronis Disk Director and during that process select the 64K cluster option can significantly reduce fragmentation over time. By increasing the cluster size you reduce maintenance time and it keeps the drive in better shape, longer, between defrag
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