Another FS loss

[Rich H]

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[Alejandro Rhodes]

Seriously though, if you spend a lot of time and effort making something, and you're just being taken for granted, of course you're going to feel down.

Oh, Yeah someone could see it,It sucks , When I began to make airplanes ,there was one thing that keep me encourage ,was my gasoline, was the old Simv encourage of the members ,I did want to make airplanes fastest I could ,THAT was my only reward ,[b][color=#000000]Other sites Appreciates more my free work than my home Simv ,IF I post the beginning of a plane I wish at least to hear something good a cheer, and not the worth punish of all the Nonchalance

[Ang2dogs]

Alrot, I haven't yet tried any of your aircraft, but I've looked at your work, and I'm looking foward to trying one of your craft, And not only Thanks to all you designers out there, aircraft, senery, utilitiys, but also to them computer geeks, like MR. Nick N, and Phill who give us all that techno info so we can run our sims full speed ahead and steady as she goes, all to all you dudes and dudettes here on SimV, for the comraidare that there is on this site, and to all them faceless winers and complainers

[CAFedm]

Just have to share my 2 cents as I've done a few freeware projects as well...seems the further along things get with all the addons available for FS (in all versions, payware or freeware) people's expectations become that much higher, along with the criticism. What was brilliant a few years ago would now probably not even get a look, and the outstanding stuff available today is largely taken for granted. What isn't cool is developers getting flak over freeware work - it's FREE, nobody put a gun to anyone's head making them try it out, and the recycle bin is a click away. While expecting any thanks is pointless (it has to be genuine), when it's forthcoming I do reciprocate with my own appreciation for having taken the time to drop me a line. This taking-for-granted is simply human nature, unfortunately a part of it that sucks, but not much that can be done about it. I just work on projects that are really of interest to me, and if they happen to appeal to even a handful of others then that's great, at least someone else gets some enjoyment out of it. The real reward is that in the end a desired project is completed, and which satisfies my own standards. As for the UKMil decision, of course not being privy to what has transpired, must say that I appreciate their contributions - they are of great quality and add considerably to my sim experience.

[Alejandro Rhodes]

[quote]Just have to share my 2 cents as I've done a few freeware projects as well...seems the further along things get with all the addons available for FS (in all versions, payware or freeware) people's expectations become that much higher, along with the criticism. What was brilliant a few years ago would now probably not even get a look, and the outstanding stuff available today is largely taken for granted. What isn't cool is developers getting flak over freeware work - it's FREE, nobody put a gun to anyone's head making them try it out, and the recycle bin is a click away. While expecting any thanks is pointless (it has to be genuine), when it's forthcoming I do reciprocate with my own appreciation for having taken the time to drop me a line. This taking-for-granted is simply human nature, unfortunately a part of it that sucks, but not much that can be done about it. I just work on projects that are really of interest to me, and if they happen to appeal to even a handful of others then that's great, at least someone else gets some enjoyment out of it. The real reward is that in the end a desired project is completed, and which satisfies my own standards. As for the UKMil decision, of course not being privy to what has transpired, must say that I appreciate their contributions - they are of great quality and add considerably to my sim experience.

[Hagar]

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick Alex.  It's the old language barrier again. CAFedm is saying that any thanks have to be genuine.

[Alejandro Rhodes]

Darm Sorry CAFEdm , and thanks Doug , That is another BIG problem

[Hagar]

[quote]That is another BIG problem

[Wing Nut]

I appreciate the hell out of what freeware developers do, and I hate seeing them go away, especially the good ones like UKMil and Mike Stone and such, but they need to tough it up a little.
There are going to be people in this world whose sole purpose is to make others feel like sh#t. They just need to pass them by and recognize the masses that do enjoy their work.

By God, you're RIGHT!

[gtirob01]

I appreciate the hell out of what freeware developers do, and I hate seeing them go away, especially the good ones like UKMil and Mike Stone and such, but they need to tough it up a little.
There are going to be people in this world whose sole purpose is to make others feel like sh#t. They just need to pass them by and recognize the masses that do enjoy their work.

By God, you're RIGHT!

[Alejandro Rhodes]

I appreciate the hell out of what freeware developers do, and I hate seeing them go away, especially the good ones like UKMil and Mike Stone and such, but they need to tough it up a little.
There are going to be people in this world whose sole purpose is to make others feel like sh#t. They just need to pass them by and recognize the masses that do enjoy their work.

By God, you're RIGHT!

[dangermouse]

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[Wing Nut]

After all of that writing, you missed the two most important words - Common Courtesy.

[CAFedm]

Don't mean to drag this out but it strikes a raw nerve...to clarify what I was trying to get across, Alex pretty much nailed it. A short while ago there were lots of addons appearing from everywhere (FS2002, and especially FS2004), and it seemed there was a lot of enthusiasm about them. Now with FSX requiring more time & skill to create better addons that meet the average user's expectations, it appears there are fewer addons coming out less frequently. Losing the talents of any developer therefore becomes a real problem as if things keep going in that direction, eventually things may dry up with regard to freeware. Hopefully it doesn't get that drastic, but if there's a particular addon that you really enjoy, it wouldn't hurt to send off a quick note of thanks to the creator, as it may help keep them from taking the same stance as Mike Stone & UKMil among others. That's pretty much what I was trying to get across...peace out 8-)

BTW both Kevin & Alrot, your latest creations are looking mighty fine!

[Hagar]

Going back to the subject of this topic I see that the UKMIL site is open for business again. (Downloading files - Members Only) http://www.ukmil.org.uk/news.php

According to the webmaster's message the last straw appears to have been caused by the scenery developers leaving.

I think a lot of you are missing the point & would have to agree with dangermouse. Most people start off creating FS addons for their own pleasure & enjoyment. I always got more enjoyment from the development side than actually "flying" in the sims. When their pet projects are finished they can upload them to sites like Simviation to share them with others. Speaking from my own experience they get as much pleasure from doing this as creating them.

I always suffered from anxiety symptoms after my latest project was first posted in case I'd forgotten something important. If there were no complaints or reported problems after a week or so I knew everything worked as advertised.