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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby Hagar » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:30 am

Hagars' .cfg lines are in there already.

Pity. I had a good start there but it has crashed twice now. Bye,Bye, B300.

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You must have a different version of the King Air 300. The Panel.cfg included with AFG_B300_v10.zip is aliased to use the background BMPs of the FS9 default King Air panel like this.

[Window00]
file=..\..\Beech_King_Air_350\panel\Panel_Background_640.bmp
file_1024=..\..\Beech_King_Air_350\panel\Panel_Background_1024.bmp
size_mm=640
position=7
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL

[Window01]
file=..\..\Beech_King_Air_350\panel\Radio_Stack_bg.bmp
size_mm=196,349
position=8
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL

This won't work in FSX even if you have FS9 installed to its default location. It will if you follow my instructions.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby packercolinl » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:13 am

No joy Hagar.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby ND6849C » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:46 am

Now keep in mind it's early for me now, and I'm still a bit tired...but I did download the panel update that was in my pm, and one one point, the panel comes up fine, but one thing needs some kind of adjustment. Under the altitude settings, and below the outer, middle, and inner marker lights are the buttons to select NAV, Backcourse, etc.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby Hagar » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:50 am

The files I sent you are already modified. All you need to do is paste them in. I haven't noticed any problems myself. I'll post a shot taken in the FSX Demo later.

You might need some of the FS9 default gauges for it to work properly. I don't think they are included with FSX.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby Hagar » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:31 am

Shot of 2D panel in FSX Demo as promised.

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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby ND6849C » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:36 am

I finally got the time to look at the 2D panel after making loading your changes zip, Hagar.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby ND6849C » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:57 pm

If anyone is watching closely, the intruments file in the KingAir300 have the autopilot, NAV, and other switches in a vertical layout (look at HAGAR's pic in his post).
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby Hagar » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:03 pm

Sorry ND6849C. I somehow missed your previous reply.

If you used my modified files I'm not sure what the problem is. It's possible you're missing some of the FS9 default gauges.

since the author isn't doing anything.

This is an FS9 model "updated" for FSX by a 3rd party, probably without the original author's knowledge or consent.. It's quite possible he hasn't got FSX.

PS. Regarding your second image. It looks just the same as mine. I can't see anything missing.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby ND6849C » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:38 am

I did send messages on the Author's website Forum and directly to them with no response...that's why I said the author is doing nothing.

I didn't think it would be difficult to figure out how to get this set of AP switches to sit vertically instead of horizontally and keep that flap switch where it is.

There has to be an answer.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby Hagar » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:05 am

I did send messages on the Author's website Forum and directly to them with no response...that's why I said the author is doing nothing.

If it's been updated for FSX without the author's knowledge or consent he is under no obligation to support it. As I pointed out before, it's quite possible he doesn't have FSX himself.

I didn't think it would be difficult to figure out how to get this set of AP switches to sit vertically instead of horizontally and keep that flap switch where it is.

There has to be an answer.

I'm under a handicap as I don't have the full version of FSX either. As you can see from the shot I posted it works perfectly for me in the FSX Demo. If you installed the modified files I sent you yours should in theory look exactly the same.

I've checked out the panel in CfgEdit. The AP gauge is gauge32 under [Window00] in Panel.cfg. This is the FS9 default Kingair.gau I sent you.
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You could try adding the size of the gauge like this. (Add the 2 values in Bold type.)

gauge32=KingAir!Autopilot, 552, 106, 45, 71

If that doesn't work I'm out of suggestions.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby ND6849C » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:25 pm

Now that I see what you've done, it's still not what the problem is.  I agree that the spot where the gauges go vertical...but the actual AP light, the NAV light, etc...those are using some sort of horizontal placement, not vertical.  what's more strange is that the way I see it (without understanding it) is the guages are called out in the panel.cfg as an example:

gauge32=KingAir!Autopilot, 552, 106
and
gauge38=KingAir!Flaps, 599, 111

but what I don't see is where those KingAir! files are placed.  I only see a KingAir_300 zip file inside of the panel folder.  but no .gau files in that zip.

However, I do have an instruments.bmp in the panel folder.  That shows the AP lights in two vertical rows of 4, just like the panel should be.  So, where the F&^* are my horizontal AP, FD, HDG, ALT, etc coming from?????

This is the big mystery.  

But even more strange is that in all of Simviation, with thousands of simmers out there, that no one single person has both FS9 and FSX on their PC.  No one single simmer has the ability to load the KingAir300 into FS9, have it working correctly, then follow the guidelines to import it into FSX.  Then once that is done, use WinZip to Zip up the file with the FSX directories named and used.

Now, don't get me wrong, I find the help very valuable here.  I guess it's just frustrating.  Because it seems like when ever I discover something wrong, there's no logical answer or explanation for it.

Hopefully this post will generate the proper help...thanks Hagar.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby Hagar » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:11 am

Now that I see what you've done, it's still not what the problem is.  I agree that the spot where the gauges go vertical...but the actual AP light, the NAV light, etc...those are using some sort of horizontal placement, not vertical.  what's more strange is that the way I see it (without understanding it) is the guages are calledout in the panel.cfg as an example:

gauge32=KingAir!Autopilot, 552, 106
and
gauge38=KingAir!Flaps, 599, 111

but what I don't see is where those KingAir! files are placed.  I only see a KingAir_300 zip file inside of the panel folder.  but no .gau files in that zip.

Those gauges are all part of the FS9 default Kingair.gau I sent you. The exclamation mark in the gauge name indicates that this is a cluster gauge containing a number of sub-gauges.

From the shot you posted the AP gauge is displaying too wide for some reason. This means that it's partly hidden under the flaps gauge.
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It should look like mine.
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But even more strange is that in all of Simviation, with thousands of simmers out there, that no one single person has both FS9 and FSX on their PC.  No one single simmer has the ability to load the KingAir300 into FS9, have it working correctly, then follow the guidelines to import it into FSX.  Then once that is done, use WinZip to Zip up the file with the FSX directories named and used.

I've gone out of my way to fix this for you but in order to help I need some reliable feedback from you. Did you paste the Kingair.gau I sent you into the Panel folder of your King Air 300 & edit the AP gauge entry in panel.cfg as I suggested? That should have fixed the problem.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby ND6849C » Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:59 am

I must have been distracted by "Obama-Palooza".
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby Hagar » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:01 am

I must have been distracted by "Obama-Palooza".  I forgot to add the 45, 71.  When I did, I got this:
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I'm thinking those numbers might need to be tweaked slightly to get it to look like yours. These look a bit squished.   But at lest this gets things closer to "normal" (pardon me for using the "N" word).
/me

Ah, that looks promising. I can only think it's using the wrong gauge.  Did you paste the Kingair.gau I sent you into the Panel folder?

PS. If you compare the flap gauge in your shot with mine its appearance is slightly different. I suspect this is part of the FSX default Kingair gauge. If I'm right we can easily fix it.
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Re: FSX King Air 300 zip files problem

Postby ND6849C » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:45 pm

Hagar,
I do have the gauge file in the panel directory.
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