For Everyone Having DX10 and DX9 SP2 Problems

[NickN]

This coming from someone who installed Acceleration, then uninstalled it and posted a review which suggested the software was uninstalled because it did not perform right... and then found out after the fact from me, Acceleration was not the problem.

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1197600092

and who also said and I quote: "Now the best attribute of FSX Acceleration, in my opinion, is the un-install. "

Its a shame your review did not come after a proper assessment based on the correct method of evaluation but seeing how you are not part of the development or hardware/software testing community, I can understand the ignorance.

And since you are running Vista and DX10, I guess you have an intellectual basis for the comments above.

You are running Vista and DX10, aren't you?    

I believe this is enough to give an idea of how this package worked for me running XPS Home with the latest Nvidia driver and version of DX9

Of course not!

Your comments above make sense to me now.  ::)



I am just tickled pink you are happy and satisfied with your hardware

Then my message was not addressed to you, and, I seem to recall the title of the thread was "For Everyone Having DX10 and DX9 SP2 Problems

[Flight Ace]

[quote]




This coming from someone who installed Acceleration, then uninstalled it and posted a review which suggested the software was uninstalled because it did not perform right... and then found out after the fact from me, Acceleration was not the problem.

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1197600092

and who also said and I quote: "Now the best attribute of FSX Acceleration, in my opinion, is the un-install. "

Its a shame your review did not come after a proper assessment based on the correct method of evaluation but seeing how you are not part of the development or hardware/software testing community, I can understand the ignorance.

And since you are running Vista and DX10, I guess you have an intellectual basis for the comments above.

You are running Vista and DX10, aren't you?

[rodericksnr]

Listenup all you experts out there We, the great majority I suspect, who read this forum, depend on your knowledge and willingness to share same with the rest of us.
It upsets us when you fallout. Its like watching your parents argue
Please

[macca22au]

I, too, am caught in the middle of all this, and feel like a spectator at a tennis match.

Like so many others I have come to rely heavily on the advice that I have received from this forum, and even though we have never met, I have come to consider Nick, Flighterace, the late Miltestpilot, Alrot and others as friends.

I have made the decision to update to one of the new quadcore 1950 series cards, with a new motherboard.  However I have an 8800GTX and I did not plan to update it - until I do my last upgrade at the end of 2008 (when I finish full-time work at age 70 DV).

Now I have two vehemently expressed opinions -

one that says ditch the nV for the ATi due out in North America early 2008, although how early in Australia is a moot point.  Also the US price will undoubtedly translate into a $1000+.

the other which says no way the nV 8800 runs well without the problems listed.

It's made even worse as my 8800 has an electrical fault and is away for repair or replacement and has never been tested with SP2.

What do I do in the face of these strenuosly argued assessments?  I'm with rodericksnr - we need you.

As a public servant I know that indecision is the key to flexibility:  is that my strategy?

[macca22au]

Sorry it is a QX9650 CPU.

[NickN]

macca22au, nothing I posted said, hinted or suggested to "ditch the nV for the ATi due out in North America early 2008"


My statements were pointed directly at those seeing the list of issues I posted. If you are not seeing any of those issues then what I said has no bearing on you.

And lets take that a step further.. if you do start to see any of those symptoms, you will know their source and instead of spending mundane hours drudging through threads trying to find the FSX fix for something you will never find a fix for, you can target that time and energy elsewhere.


I have been posting that the 8000 series core issues were manufacture related since the day that card was released in October of last year so nothing I have said here in this thread is of any surprise. My goal was to make sure that those seeing the list of issues I posted realize that the problems they are seeing are not a game programming related but are in fact a video card core/drive design issues.


I also said quite clearly that I could not make any assessment about the newer cards Nvidia will be releasing in February.




What Flight Ace posted above was nothing but a continuation of the argument and obvious frustration with me he presented in this thread http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1197600092


And last, if someone wishes to take their ball and go home, that is up to them. Nothing I said in response to his rhetoric was untrue or an attack.

It was a correct response generated in the same light he wished to communicate with me.

[macca22au]

Thanks Nick for that explanation - just occasionally a private dispute becomes less than civil, and for us poor simmers in the middle, we can't pick who is right and who is wrong.

However I am sure in fact, in spite of what I say, tht when the new card turns up in March in Oz as a big winner, I'll turn my back on prudence and buy again.

Sometime, sometime, there surely must be a rig that allows us to get the max out of FSX.  It is the Holy Grail which like the knights of old we blindly and passionately seek forsaking all other.

[Flight Ace]

[quote]I, too, am caught in the middle of all this, and feel like a spectator at a tennis match.

Like so many others I have come to rely heavily on the advice that I have received from this forum, and even though we have never met, I have come to consider Nick, Flighterace, the late Miltestpilot, Alrot and others as friends.

I have made the decision to update to one of the new quadcore 1950 series cards, with a new motherboard.

[rodericksnr]

Thanks from me also Nick. Without you guys we would be lost. The Simviation forum is by far the best of the best.
By the way, I found this on the Alienware site. Should I buy or wait a few months. its quiet expensive. Iv'e waited about two years to upgrade from;-
COMPAQ PRESARIO 061
AMD 64 PROCESSOR 3700 + 2.2Ghz

[Fr. Bill]

[quote]I have and had no beef with Nick. He is a great asset to this forum. If it were someone else who was responsible for his post, I would have responded in the same manner. The issue I have with the post is that it gives the impression that everyone was having problems with Nvidia cards with DX9 and 10 and people should avoid Nvidia products.

[NickN]

[quote][quote]I have and had no beef with Nick. He is a great asset to this forum. If it were someone else who was responsible for his post, I would have responded in the same manner. The issue I have with the post is that it gives the impression that everyone was having problems with Nvidia cards with DX9 and 10 and people should avoid Nvidia products.

[NickN]

[quote]

Further, with the last one filed in August Nvidia has all of a sudden started releasing drivers every week, somtimes twice a week which is unheard of in the industry unless they are under serious pressure to correct something.

[macca22au]

There is a certified 169.25 now released.

Has anyone tried it?

Does it help, or is it Crysis they are trying to fix, and other games are collateral damage.

[Deviant]

I had less trouble with the 169.09 beta than I'm having with the 169.25.  I get more texture flashes in particular and slightly lower frame rates.  I was thinking about going back, but I'm going to try the 169.28 beta first.

[Flight Ace]

[quote][quote][quote]I have and had no beef with Nick. He is a great asset to this forum. If it were someone else who was responsible for his post, I would have responded in the same manner. The issue I have with the post is that it gives the impression that everyone was having problems with Nvidia cards with DX9 and 10 and people should avoid Nvidia products.