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Re: Wet Runways

Postby GunnerMan » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:29 pm

Yeah, I agree its a cool effect to show off the engines capabilities but even if there was standing water like that I am worried the reflection will be to strong. I do think if an airport got like that there would be some serious flight delays.
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby C » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:30 pm

You could go for a swim whilst waiting though ;) ;D
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby Nexus » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:34 pm

How' bout waterskiing behind a departing 747?  ;D
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby expat » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:42 pm

How' bout waterskiing behind a departing 747?  ;D



Nice idea, but the jet blast would give you a real bad hair day 8)

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Re: Wet Runways

Postby Katahu » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:44 pm

I don't know why people are arguing about wet runways. I distinctly remember a year or two ago that people wanted to see wet runways that reflect. Now, people are starting to sound like they're against it.

Anyways, I've seen wet streets that relflected. I know because I ride a bike to and from work everyday and there are times where I have to ride in rain and snow for the past two years. What I'm trying to say is this: if streets can reflect, then so can taxiways and runways.

It's not rocket science. Even though none of you said it was, you make it sound like it was.
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby C » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:49 pm

I don't know why people are arguing about wet runways. I distinctly remember a year or two ago that people wanted to see wet runways that reflect. Now, people are starting to sound like they're against it.


I think we're merely commenting that it looks very, very wet. I'm hoping there may be a sort of "in between" dampness and spray... :)
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby Nexus » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:50 pm


I think we're merely commenting that it looks very, very wet. I'm hoping there may be a sort of "in between" dampness and spray... :)


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Re: Wet Runways

Postby 2992 » Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:24 pm

I really do not understand why people are arguing about this.
Unless one of you is a personal friend to Mr.gates, the runways will have reflections when wet and none of us will change that. Its silly to argue about something that will be there like it or not. 8) ;)
Just my view of the situation
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But hey, I have only 18 years in the industry behind me, what do I know?

I couldn't help but say that your statement is a bit ignorant, its like saying that example:70 year old politicians who have been in the business for 40+ years do not make mistakes, or pilots who have been flying for 30 years are flawless. Your statement is a little ignorant.
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby EirePlane » Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:42 pm

I thought they said there will be reflections in wet runways and water now....

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I'm not sure if anyone has noticed but they dont seem to be reflections at all, rather a different texture for wet surfaces. The reflection in the water is of grass and trees whereas the actual landscape is different
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby expat » Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:51 pm

It is very dependent on the surface of the runway. But hey, I have only 18 years in the industry behind me, what do I know?

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Ok, Ok, we can all agree to disagree at to the reflective qualities of a runway.
I will conceed that from a distance, where the vast amount of people see aircraft ie, spotters building and air display, etc you can get a good reflection, however, if you get up close, or even under an aircraft the reflection is not really visible. This is my point, with FSX or any of the series, the outside view that we use are right next to the aircraft. Who pans back to the aircraft spotters view? We all want to see the great things that have been included on the aircraft in question, flaps and gear detail, engines etc. What we do not see, is the smooth ice surface that is shown in the screen shots.

As for my above statement, it was written in haste. When I post, I look at peoples profile to get a feel for the converstaion. I looked at Alphajet-Enthusiast and Theis and saw that I was being put down by a couple of teenagers that have experienced the world infront of a computer screen, I was a little hurt. I do not mean to offend with this statement either, it just a "reflection" of how I was feeling at the time. I am not too big to be corrected by anyone. AND 2992, :70 year old politicians who have been in the business for 40+ years do not make mistakes.....That is what I want to be in my next life. How often do you see a politicians stand up and say " it was all my fault" ;D

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Re: Wet Runways

Postby 2992 » Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:57 pm

Your forgiven ;D  ;)
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby C » Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:12 pm

I really do not understand why people are arguing about this.


Tis not an argument, merely a Sunday afternoon discussion... ;) :)

I'm not sure if anyone has noticed but they dont seem to be reflections at all, rather a different texture for wet surfaces. The reflection in the water is of grass and trees whereas the actual landscape is different


Lol ;D So it is! Does that make it a mirage then, rather than a reflection?
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby expat » Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:16 pm

Tis not an argument, merely a Sunday afternoon discussion... ;) :)


More tea Vicar ;D

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Re: Wet Runways

Postby Katahu » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:07 pm

It is very dependent on the surface of the runway. But hey, I have only 18 years in the industry behind me, what do I know?


I wasn't offended at all. By the context of the message, you make 18 years sound insignificant and since you said 'what do I know?', you clearly stated that you don't know everything. Therefore, it didn't sound like an ignorant statement at all. I don't know why the others blasted you on that.

Anyways, 2992 was right. This is a petty arguement. M$ read the forums, M$ found that people wanted reflective runways and taxiways when wet, then M$ applied them. Nobody in the past year or two clearly indicated how reflective such surfaces should be. Besides, this is a brand new feature that M$ is trying out so don't expect M$ to get it right the first time. And don't forget, those screenshots that M$ release are preliminary shots. Therefore, we might see some changes once FSX is released. Which then takes me back to what everyone was saying: it's still a year away.
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Re: Wet Runways

Postby Mobius » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:38 pm

That was the only shot I could find closely related to the reflections, but I remember seeing shots of the Seattle waterfront where the needle and the buildings and everything was reflected in the water and I remember reading somewhere where they stated that that was how the reflections would be.  I don't know though, we'll just have to wait and see. :)
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