To those who complaine about the demo

[x_jasper]

BAW: "The most recent complaint was jasper who claims MS lied to all..."



Microsoft said a while ago there would be full backward compatibility.

Now, I download the demo and all seems to work well except import textures.

I am not aware of any statement by Microsoft (not that there isn't one) which says that some current hardware might not render imported textures. Hence, their original statement on compatibility has not necessarily held true, at least in some cases.

Why therefore was I accused of branding Microsoft as 'liars' ? when in-fact the very word was not use in my posts.  Please read before making distortions.

I get fed-up of people jumping in on discussions with intent to cause rifts between participants, usually forgetting to look at everything which has been posted, just to have a go at someone.

Perhaps it might be worth considering what kind of sim there would be were it not for us 'moaners',  especially if we did as you say and complain AFTER the final release. I don't see Microsoft doing a product recall somehow.

Also check some of my other posts & threads, you'll see I actually do help people too. Or perhaps you choose to ignore that.

P.S. No one on here is as you say ..." Freakin stupid"
We might get a bit steamed up with each other on occasion, but we don't let go of mutual respect.

Jasper

[Hagar]

We might get a bit steamed up with each other on occasion, but we don't let go of mutual respect.

Nicely put.

[RollerBall]

Jasper - my advice is to ride with it. This started with a somewhat misjudged(?) tirade against anyone who had a bad word to say about the demo and one or two other reactionary dudes have just climbed on the bandwaggon. It happens.

Your other thread was a bit more objective and made a lot of progress. Nothing to be gained by mixing it here.

[Red_Kite]

My only complaint is the bad spelling and paragraph composition in that first rant!  ;D

[vololiberista]

A demo is usually released to show how well something works not how badly as in the case of FSX!!!

If I am given a demo tv set  and I can't get more than one chanel and it's not in colour and the telecomando doesn't work then I'm not very impressed and probably won't buy the product based upon the Demonstration model!!
And I'm not very likely to believe ANYONE who says "Oh, it'll be all right in the finished product"
M(qualcosa)s would have doine better not to have released the demo. THey have been saying all along that it will only work properly inside Vista and DX10 which themselves are both future events!!! I'll stay with FS9 until both Vista and DX10 are established and bug free!!!
Vololiberista

[Katahu]

I'll stay with FS9 until both Vista and DX10 are established and bug free!!!

Then you might want to settle in because nothing from Microsoft will ever be bug free.

[GA_Pilot]

[quote]My only complaint is the bad spelling and paragraph composition in that first rant!

[x_jasper]

Re: Rollerball, Hagar & others:

Of course you guys are right, maybe times like these remind us of how important it is to try and remain objective.

Undoubtedly some opinions & comments etc will be challenged , others will be agreed upon. At least our community is unbiassed, and although we may not be aware of it perhaps the software houses are actually taking note of our views.

However, as was suggested maybe time to put this one to bed.

Regards all
Jasper

[Daube]

[quote]A demo is usually released to show how well something works not how badly as in the case of FSX!!!

If I am given a demo tv set

[Inspector]

I have XP SP2 installed and the FS X Demo version installed and started without any problem. Everything was working and tested many kKeyboard functions and all worked well.  

[cheesegrater]

When is the FSX release date and when was the demo released? Yeah, Microsoft will make it 10x better in that short span of time and god forbid if you complain about the demo.

[Katahu]

Cheese, it has already been confirmed [or at least suggested by retail sites like Amazon] that FSX would be released on early October.

[x_jasper]

Perhaps there was a dilema at microsoft where in the case of the demo they had to decide on a compromise between showing what was on offer, and trying to get the demo to run on current hardware.

On one hand if they coded in such a way that everything was guaranteed to work, people would have said it was no different to FS9. On the other hand if they code to show what the sim is fully capable of then probably only a very small minority would be able to evaluate it.

Not an easy decision.

My own guess is microsoft want this sim to be a different product, in a class of it's own and from what has been said in other places I believe they really are taking note of consumer preferences. (For once)

I don't profess to be as smart a business man as Bill Gates, but if I were in his shoes I would say there was little milage left in continuing the 'series' the same old way. They've had their sims running now for say 10 years? Not bad going really, but all things do change. Maybe they realise this in the form of FSX.

As for the demo, I

[Daube]

Agree with that.
But I think that the main dilemma they had was about time frame. I guess they wanted to offer a demo as soon as possible, as far from the release a possible, leading to several compromises on functionnalities/stability/performance/etc...
Either we had a demo with bugs and missing stuff, either we would still be waiting two more months until the release to get anything to try... I prefer the first solution

PS: I don't know anything about that, but maybe MS will release another demo after the full product is released ? Would be usefull, for real demonstration purpose I mean.

[BAW0343]

Hey sorry i havent been part of this disscussion scince I started it,  school has got me busy.  ;D  Ok Jasper i am sorry about that little rant i did about you and it was out of line. I was just mad about people complaineing about the demo when MS said not evrything would work. This is their first FS demo ever (as far as i know) and i think they did good, they have a few things to learn but i liked it and am excited about the full version. Ok now for the first post's grammer and lack of paragraphs,   sorry im online and dont think about that stuff  ;D

P.S. Im glad this thread was accepted well, was afraid i would start a hate thread twards my anger  ;D (Anyone remember a long time ago with my "Tutorial" wana-be thread in the edited screenies section?)