FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby justpassingthrough » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:58 am

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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby Mawtini » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:29 am

Ye, asking why two files aren't there is a dumb question.
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby justpassingthrough » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:40 am

[quote]Ye, asking why two files aren't there is a dumb question.
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby Nick N » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:32 am

Does any other version apart from 10 work with Vista?

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Ultimate Defrag may be better for you with Vista. I was also waiting for O&O v10 for Vista use but with the changes made, I can not recommend it.

What I do not like about Ultimate Defrag is there are too many variables for the typical user. Yes, it is a powerful program but thats like putting a Piper Cub pilot into a 747 and telling them to fly. Moving stuff all over a hard drive is not needed and is overkill simply because, the user should ALWAYS adhere to the following RULES of hard drive optimizing...

1. Never partition a hard drive other than 'storage' drives for backup software and media files

2. Never fill a hard drive more than 60-70% absolute max, to do so significantly reduces performance. Optimal is 50% or less

3. Only install programs to a Windows OS and try to keep items such as media, music and others on another drive.

I always move the "My Documents" folder to another drive using the move feature in Windows. This allows the system to find the folder just as if it was installed on the same drive as Windows but if anything ever goes wrong, my documents and other files in that folder are always safe. I can wipe out Windows and never worry about loss of docs and the huge amonut of information in that folder never fills up the OS drive. I also move My Favorites, My Music, My Pictures and keep a copy of my CLEAN and organized START MENU folder, which has my organized programs menu of installed programs ready for a reinstall so I never have to organize it again.

I never go looking for things on my system because they are all in perfect order...

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4. You can use a separate drive for MSFS or other games as long as you maintain the same rules for performance. Never partition such a drive and never put anything on it other than the titles you want to run and keep it 50% free, but you can push that to 70.


If the above is followed, there is no reason to move and jumble files around a hard drive like Ultimate Defrag allows. All you need in a defrag are 6 things..

1. All parts of a file will be located and placed back together

2. All files will have the free cluster space removed between them

3. All files will be placed in a NAME order, creating a sequential access file system

4. The MFT catalog will be defragmented and the cluster record will be placed in numerical running order

5. The page file, something that if the systm has enough memory wil very RARELY be used, should go after the data and the MFT

6. All files needed to boot the computer will be located and moved to the FIRST sector of the hard disk and also placed in the BOOT order they were called up in the layout.ini file.

Thats it. This business of moving program exe's to the beginning of the disk and zip's and other parts of a software install to the end is rubbish. It is better to have every FOLDER AND FILE in a OS/software install in perfect alphanumerical order.

Ultimate Defrag claims its best to put the unused Windows files at the end of the disk... Did they also mention that the folder WINDOWS is the LAST FOLDER LISTED in a hard drive root directory? AND Did they also mention, if you do a NAME defrag the letter W is at the END of the alphabet?? Which means in a NAME defrag WINDOWS and all the OS files not needed at the beginning of the disk, go to the END. They make it sound like their software does something amazing when in fact they copied O&O Defrag's practice that has been in use for years.



Ultimate defrag does a sales pitch that in many ways is bull. O&O Defrag v8 or 8.5 does the job just fine, clean and simple and without the bull story.

There is nothing wrong with ultimate defrag, it will work, but if you dont know what you are doing it offers features kiddies should not be touching.

You just need to follow the rules of hard drive/data use and do a COMPLETE\NAME defrag of the file system, its that simple.
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby Nick N » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:34 am

It has been mentioned that gurus prefer O&O Defrag. There is a reason for that and its called KISS. A guru knows when it comes to computers and making things work best, KISS is always the best way to go.

KISS = Keep It Sweet and Simple


I guess I am going to have to install Ultimate Defrag again, sort through its garbage and post a list of setup and proper use of it. Unless Gmbh, the maker of O&O sees the way of their mistake with version 10, UD may become needed for Vista.

I will only use O&O v8.5 for XP.
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby reider » Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:20 pm

Thanks Nick, looks like I need to ditch O&O and try Ultimate then....

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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby Nick N » Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:39 pm

Thanks Nick, looks like I need to ditch O&O and try Ultimate then....

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I know you probably have a better than average grasp on how things work, but be careful with that program. It
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby macca22au » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:27 pm

But I don't have a better than average grasp, and I am susceptible to bullshit.

However I have UD, it seems to work, and I keep on shifting folders on to my third disk to keep the two RAID0 disks as free as possible.

Indeed I have been thinking of getting an external HDD - there is a mob of them on the market - and putting the stuff on it that I rarely use, and at the same time, don't need a fast drive to access.

But if you can write an amateurs guide to UD I would be most grateful.

As they say, NickN, your blood should be bottled - or the little the Alaskan mosquitoes have left you.
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby macca22au » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:47 pm

KISS=Keep it Simple, Stupid.
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby Nick N » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:54 pm

KISS=Keep it Simple, Stupid.



I know, that
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby aussiewannabe » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:16 pm

[quote]IN CONCLUSION
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby Nick N » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:22 pm

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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby Nick N » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:32 pm

AND I WILL ADD

some of those 'cleaners' flush the Windows\prefetch folder a VERY BAD THING TO TO if you optimized using my list because it will destroy the boot layout files used to make the system run faster


so you need to look at these cleaners you use and make sure they are not deleting files in places they HAVE NO BUSINESS deleting from, because of a developer simply doesn't understand Windows, or thinks he does.
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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby lost16 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:00 pm

 Nick, just a side bar. Noticed you bought one of those hd 2900xt 1gb video cards.  Is it worth the price?  I've read mixed reviews on the 2900 series and it seems to be there are those who think ATI's drivers need "maturing" vs those who think the card can't perform up to its stated architecture no matter what drivers are used.  I thought about buying it when it first came out, but Tom's Hardware did evaluation of FSX using various cards and the performance spread was so small between high and low end cards (my 7950gt was a few fps off of a 8800gtx for example), that I put off buying a new one.  I know ATI's drivers support x24AA.  Is the eye candy and/or performance worth the upgrade?


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Re: FS Autostart or Cacheman in FSX???

Postby Nick N » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:24 pm

That is not the card that is currently on the market.

Thanks for pointing that out. I did not realize I had posted that... and I cant go back and edit it out because of the date.   lol

As for comments, I can make none.


Sorry.
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