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Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby chrisco17 » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:30 pm

Does anyone else have this issue?
I have no glass in the windows of the default aircraft,
but the aircraft I imported from FS9 has the window (canopy in this case). Top is default FSX, bottom is imported from FS9.
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All of my default aircraft are like this.
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby Katahu » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:57 pm

I don't have that problem at all. Did you check your video drivers? Someone once pointed out that certain older versions of the video drivers work better than the new ones.
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby Bindoe » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:23 am

What video card do you have?
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby chrisco17 » Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:31 am

What video card do you have?


It says on my signature that I have a GeForce 3, but I couldn't get the graphics to show clearly at all with that card, so put my BFG Asylum GeForce FX5200 128 card in.

Now I can actually read the guages in the VC, and see the RADAR in Flight Controller mode.

Either way, I know that the 128 isn't enough, but I should still be able to see everything, just maybe slower.

I don't have that problem at all. Did you check your video drivers? Someone once pointed out that certain older versions of the video drivers work better than the new ones.


Maybe that is my problem, I have the latest driver installed.
That is unfortunate that you need old drivers, especially when they alway say "uodate to the latest drivers"
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby commoner » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:36 am

......mm.....I have the same "problem".......... my c172 from FS9 shows glass in fsx but the default fsx aircraft are windowless............just wondering though how  it can be a drivers issue if imported a/c work and others not............I would have thought in that case imported planes would be windowless too...............puzzling!......... commoner ???
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby pepper_airborne » Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:15 am

The winows are made up from a shader material from what i have seen, it could be that the 5200 doesnt support it.
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby commoner » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:24 am

The windows are made up from a shader material from what i have seen, it could be that the 5200 doesnt support it.


..Then why are FS9 imports ok? .........commoner ;)
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby RollerBall » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:26 am

Because maybe they do glass in a different way....??  ???
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby commoner » Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:00 am

...mm....yes that could be so.......... Just emailed M$ with the query and got the usual response that they will try to get back within 24hrs..........Not holding my breath on that one............commoner ;D
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby Hai Perso Coyone? » Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:01 am

...mm....yes that could be so.......... Just emailed M$ with the query and got the usual response that they will try to get back within 24hrs..........Not holding my breath on that one............commoner ;D


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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby chrisco17 » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:04 am

The probability that the 5200 does not support a new way of rendering glass sounds pretty logical to me.
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby Fr. Bill » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:47 pm


..Then why are FS9 imports ok? .........commoner ;)



Any FS9 model that used an untextured Material will be totally invisible in FSX.

Any FS9 model that used a textured Material will be visible.

FSX default models who have invisible glass is the fault of the video card not supporting at least Pixel Shader 1.3 or better.
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby SkyNoz » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:07 pm

Did you overwrite any file from FS9 into FSX?  ???
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby commoner » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:02 am



Any FS9 model that used an untextured Material will be totally invisible in FSX.

Any FS9 model that used a textured Material will be visible.



..mm...care to explain textured Material and untextured material?............never heard that mentioned before....maybe give me an example of a plane using an untextured Material...........commoner;)
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Re: Gets VERRRRY Windy

Postby Hagar » Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:55 am

Just a thought but maybe this is related to your problem. http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=FSX;action=display;num=1161961492
You could try temporarily removing  the xxx_reflections.dds from the Texture folder of offending aircraft to see if that fixes it.

I've seen little bugs like this in the past & the problem is usually related to video card/drivers & incompatability with the current version of DX. I believe an updated version of DX9.0c is now available from the Windows Update site. You might like to try it but I can't guarantee it won't make things worse. Unless anyone comes up with better ideas it might be safer to leave well alone & put up with it for now.
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