Why is it that?

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Why is it that?

Postby tcco94 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:41 pm

Well I finally took the posky 777 for a spin. I love it but ive noticed this with multiple airplanes. There cruise speeds say like 400-500 knots or something im just guessing I cant exactly remember but in that range. When I go above 330 knots it says over speed. Im even at cruising altitude of 32,000 feet?

Any help?
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:49 pm

You answered your own question  ;)

Your homework assignment is to explain the difference between 'indicated airpseed' , and 'true airspeed'


(hint: altitude is the biggest factor)
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby tcco94 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:59 pm

Ohhhh,
Okay I think I get what you mean.

When im gaining altitude im gaining my true airspeed but my indicated airspeed is staying the same?

I looked at my GPS while im in the flight right now and it says 510 which I believe is my true airspeed?
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:04 pm

That's "close".. but you'll enjoy this all so much more if you you do some research and are able to explain it to someone else..

After all.. a 777 pilot should know (and understand) these things  :)
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby tcco94 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:12 pm

;D
Doing the research as we speak, if i get it tonight ill try again.

This is why I dont fly these huge 777's but im finding it alot funner than a 747  :o
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby tcco94 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:18 pm

Google is useful  8-)
Lets try again here,

So the indicated airspeed is the airspeed that the airplane things its speed is by the molecules going through the pitot tube.

True airspeed is how fast the airplane is really going but at higher altitudes the air is less dense so less molecules in the pitot tube and a less indicated airspeed.

So if I was going 300 knots at sea-level it would be the same as going 100 knots at 30,000 feet.

Is this right ;)
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:34 am

Your interpretation is a little askew,, but YES.. you are understanding it.

Every little piece of aeronautic data adds up in your brain.. pilots need to understand this stuff.. not just have it explained to them..

VERY good ! :)
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby FlightHound » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:09 am

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Every little piece of aeronautic data adds up in your brain.. pilots need to understand this stuff.. not just have it explained to them..
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby tcco94 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:51 pm

Okay thanks!
It makes alot more since when I did the research why its diffrent at higher altitudes.

I use to always think I was going 300 kts.  ::) ;D
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:40 pm

Ok.. now here's where it get's interesting..

Your wings "see" the same thing that the pitot tube sees. They "think" they're moving through air at the indicated (lower) airspeed.

To your advantage at higher altitudes, drag is relatively low (considering your TRUE airspeed).. but you get nearer the "Coffin Corner"..
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Re: Why is it that?

Postby expat » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:50 am

One thing not yet pointed out is that at the sort of altitudes you are talking about, knots are not used, you should be working in Mach, and as a lose rule be flying at about .8. Mach takes into account altitude and air density the two things that you fighting against to remain flying in knots......or so is my understanding :-?

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