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Perpetual Afterburner

Postby Bubblehead » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:48 pm

I've got a couple of aircraft, the F4 Phantom in particular which has its afterburner on even when the aircraft is idling ready for take off. On full throttle it is also on and when drop down on the throttle, the burner is still on full blast. Is there any adjustment I can make in the aircraft.cfg that will make the after burner respond to the throttle position?
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby Daube » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:34 pm

This usually happens with planes that have the aftrburner as a light effect.
Some other aircrafts have the afterburners into gauges. The best for you would be to find an aircraft like this, look into its aircraft.cfg to check what gauges are handling the afterburners, and copy this stuff into the aricraft.cfg of the planes you want.
For example, if I remember right, the F-5 from Tim Conrad has such a gauge afterburner.... in fact there are two gauges, one that show the afterburner, and one that tells when the afterburner should work or not. The names of those gauges are quite explicit, you will recognize them very easilly.
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby Meck » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:05 am

Maybe ShaneG will pop up here and help you out?! If not have a search for similar threads here in the FSX section - Shane has made some pretty good explanations about that topic 2 or 3 months ago... Just thinking of the Airbus with burnerflames ;)
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby idahosurge » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:33 am

I had the same problem with the FSX update of KO's F-16 and I found out that one of the light switches would turn the afterburner off.  Try playing with the light switches and see if you can get it off.
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby RacingLad » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:50 pm

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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby MeekRN » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:37 am

cant you just get rid of that guage? and get rid of the afterburner effect.

I personally like some of the F14 guages, i just dont have the guts to try to use them on other planes. like these.
this one is radar that shows other traffic and airports and nav aids
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this one is a coll nav and com panel
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this is a nearest airport list
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once you choose an airport it gives you info on it quickly
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby Bubblehead » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:10 am

I'm the originator of this thread. My F14 and my "Grizzly" planes both have good working afterburners, that is, it starts off with the burner off and as you increase throttle, the "oriffice" and the "flame comes on. My F4 Phantom however shows the burner flame even while taxiing for take off.

I printed the burner sections (light.11-18) of the three planes and compared. I then replaced the F4 section with that of the F14. The result was that flame disappeared altogether. I was uable to find a "[Gauge] section in the aircraft.cfg. Is there any other area in the fsx.cfg or aircraft.cfg which contain commands pertaining to the afterburner?
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby CAFedm » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:50 am

Hope this might be of some help...the Grizzly is my project, how it was made to work was to employ a gauge (courtesy of a very generous & talented individual) that controls the afterburner via throttle position. The gauge was compiled with the model (e.g., using FS2004's MakeMDL) therefore no reference to it will be found by looking at the aircraft files. There are similar type gauges available, the one here:

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/syb.c ... B_F16_.zip

might do the trick...the aircraft model need not be recompiled, but essentially what needs editing are two things. First, the panel.cfg, where a new gauge entry is added and uses the gauge's name. This is how the gauge is recognized and works with that aircraft. Second, the visible afterburner effects themselves are still called for in the aircraft.cfg, within the [lights] section. Reason the swapped F-14 effects might not have shown on the Phantom was because the new effects may not have been renamed in the [lights] section (e.g., the original may have used effects named "flankerburner" while the other aircraft uses effects named "F-16_flame"). Of course, the control gauge and effects files also need adding to their appropriate folders in FS. The instructions obviously will be more specific but that's one way to add a throttle-able afterburner effect. Hope it all works out for you!
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby ShaneG_old » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:38 am

Maybe ShaneG will pop up here and help you out?! If not have a search for similar threads here in the FSX section - Shane has made some pretty good explanations about that topic 2 or 3 months ago... Just thinking of the Airbus with burnerflames ;)


I had to go WAY back to find those threads. ;D

Do you have a link to the plane?
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby RacingLad » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:17 am

Maybe ShaneG will pop up here and help you out?! If not have a search for similar threads here in the FSX section - Shane has made some pretty good explanations about that topic 2 or 3 months ago... Just thinking of the Airbus with burnerflames ;)


I had to go WAY back to find those threads. ;D

Do you have a link to the plane?
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby ShaneG_old » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:37 am

For the Mig-17, look for this section in the aircraft.cfg :

[TurbineEngineData]
fuel_flow_gain          = 0.006                 //Gain on fuel flow
inlet_area              = 4.2895                //Square Feet, engine nacelle inlet area
rated_N2_rpm            = 16728                 //RPM, second stage compressor rated value
static_thrust           = 11000                 //Lbs, max rated static thrust at Sea Level
afterburner_available   = 6                   //Afterburner stages available?
afterburner_throttle_threshold = 0.80           //Percent of throttle range where a/b begins Play with this number to get it where you want it. ;)


And for the exit, look for this section:

[exits]
number_of_exits=1
exit_rate.0=1.0    ;Percent per second  Adjust this number to get what you are after. ;)

Is this a payware or freeware airplane? :-?
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Re: Perpetual Afterburner

Postby RacingLad » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:05 pm

[quote]For the Mig-17, look for this section in the aircraft.cfg :

[TurbineEngineData]
fuel_flow_gain      
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