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confused about ILS landings

Postby jieitai » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:44 pm

Here's my problem: I like flying around Korea--I always use real weather. Korea is foggy 24/7.

I've read all the Learning Center topics, and FSX does a good job teaching you how to read ILS in a Cessna. The game utterly fails on teaching you how to read ILS on a jet--I can't even find the friggen ILS display.

Not only that, but it fails to mention how to tune the bloody ILS to the runway you're landing on. How can you put what you've learned into practice when you haven't even been taught how to turn the instrument on?!

So, where can I get this information?
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby Wii » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:47 pm

Plenty of tutorial videos on how to tune your NAV and GPS, set your autopilot and set the course heading. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby BFMF » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:05 pm

How can you put what you've learned into practice when you haven't even been taught how to turn the instrument on?!

So, where can I get this information?


Once your proficient with instrument flying, and know how to operate the navigation instruments in one particular aircraft, it's fairly easy to familiarize with the instruments in another aircraft. Atleast for me. I can hop into a lot of aircraft cockpits in the sim, and it may take a little while, but after fiddling around with the knobs and buttons, I eventually figure it out.... ;)
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby jieitai » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:12 pm

Well, I could get familiar with them, if someone told me how to tune ILS to your destination. Wikipedia won't, and neither will FSX's tutorials...
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby dave3cu » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:26 pm

http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/index.htm-Flight Simulator Navigation
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby BFMF » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:31 pm

Well, I could get familiar with them, if someone told me how to tune ILS to your destination. Wikipedia won't, and neither will FSX's tutorials...



Are you having problems figuring out every navigational radio, or only specific aircraft radio panels?
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby an-225 » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:47 pm

His problem, is that he doesn't know where to find the frequency of the ILS for his destination. ;)

Mate, as you start your descent - bring up the menu bar. And open the map. Move the map focus to your destination airport - if it has an ILS, then there will be a green feather indicating it. Click on the green feather, appropriate to the runway you are landing on, make a note of the ILS frequency it lists, and tune it in to your radio. ;)

ALT for menu bar, then World, then map. ;)

Oh, and aircraft with glass cockpits, such as the 747, will display the information on the actual primary flight display.
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby BFMF » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:56 pm

His problem, is that he doesn't know where to find the frequency of the ILS for his destination. ;)


Like i've said before, once you know the basics, and are more proficient with insrument flying, transitioning to larger, more complex aircrafts is easier.

Finding the frequency on the map kinda part of the basics.... ;)
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby jieitai » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:11 am

See, the FSX tutorials mention nothing about looking up ILS frequencies on the map and plugging the frequencies into your radio. It just says "this is an ILS gauge, and this is how you read it".

Oh, and aircraft with glass cockpits, such as the 747, will display the information on the actual primary flight display.


By information, do you mean the ILS frequencies, or the ILS needles? (Another vital point the FSX learning center failed to mention: where the hell are the needles in a glass cockpit?)
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby an-225 » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:19 am

In a glass cockpit, they are not needles as per se. Look, one of my favourite flights to practice ILS is a circuit round KEDW. Take off, and fly to the Edwards VOR (116.40 Mhz). Make a 180, and fly down the ILS at KEDW (110.10).

Now, by information, I do mean the needles. However, on your PFD, they are represented by purple diamonds. Your localiser is represented on the bottom of the PFD. Your glideslope is located on the far right.
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby jieitai » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:32 am

Now that I know what to look for I'll give it a try.
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby an-225 » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:43 am

Now that I know what to look for I'll give it a try.



Don't forget to adjust the course to the signal. The ILS at KEDW is on a heading of 224.
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby jieitai » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:07 pm

So I set the heading bug to the ILS heading?
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby Anxyous » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:36 pm

No, the course setting :)
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Re: confused about ILS landings

Postby an-225 » Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:55 pm

Yep, the course setting. :)

If you are flying the 737 - the course knob is separate from the PFD.

If you are flying the 747 - there is a number representing the set course, at the top of your right PFD.
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