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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby MattNW » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:13 am

I am totally fine with MS trying to protect their work and their revenues. I never used pirated software and never will ...

My question is actually simple: I could not find this question answered clearly anywhere. If you can answer this or let me know a microsoft email addy I can send this to, I would appreciate it.

I just installed FSX on my computer. Works great. But 6 months from now I want to get a new computer (more powerful) to take advantage of all the FSX features.

Just to be clear I don't want to use FSX on two computer at the same time. I will uninstall FSX from my old rig and install it on the new one.

Will I be allowed to install my copy of FSX on my new computer? or will I be forced to buy a new license?

Anybody knows how to answer this question? or do you know of an email addy at Microsoft I can send my question to?

thanks!



You shouldn't have any problem. You get two activations so the first is on your present computer and the second is on the new machine. Now if you suddenly decide six months down the line that you want an even better computer or win a "top of the line" Alienware rig you will have to call an 800 "doesn't cost you a dime" number and explain this to someone at Microsft.

Usually this is not problem and they will reset your activation. If however you have called them once a week for the past 30 days requesting a new activation then you might get a different reception. It's really not that big a deal if you are on the up and up.
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby Politically Incorrect » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:24 am

I would think that the problem you may run into would be if you had both PCs connected to the internet at the same time with FSX running. I am certain that when the sim contacts MS to retrieve the news and other data you can get using the sim that the activation code is sent as well.
It is then possible to see that the same copy is running on both machines then a issue might arise.
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby Fr. Bill » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:31 pm

I would think that the problem you may run into would be if you had both PCs connected to the internet at the same time with FSX running. I am certain that when the sim contacts MS to retrieve the news and other data you can get using the sim that the activation code is sent as well.
It is then possible to see that the same copy is running on both machines then a issue might arise.


That would be a reasonable hypothesis, if in fact the sim actually did do that...

...however, it doesn't ever "phone home" except when you explicitly ask it to, during the "activation" process...  :(
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby MickeyMouse » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:09 pm

I have no problem with Activations, but there shouldn't be a limit.
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby Skligmund » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:55 am

Bear with me....

Hello, I'm a new software company, Skligsoft. I just spent thousands of dollars that I borrowed from the bank (since I'm poor) to hire a couple programmers and come out with this snazzy little Widget program. This program is my (my, in this case, means the company) intellectual property. I own it, I do not have to sell it. however, I need to make money off of it in order to pay back my loan, and hopefully make some capital. Now, I know that there are 10,000 people who are willing to pay me for this program. In which case, I'll sell the rights to use my intellectual property for $20. But, because I know that 1,000 of those customers will just borrow the copy from his buddy, I need to come up with a way to make that not happen. To do this, I'll require an agreement between me (the company) and the purchaser that states he can only have this software installed on one computer at a time. In order to make sure they realize that I am not selling the software, but the right to use it, I will include in the agreement that he must activate the program through my online resource, which keeps track of each license sold by serial number. If a license is tracked to be installed and it red flags abnormal, I'll require a phone call with a reasonable explination as to why there was such a change, in order to make it more difficult for a would be pirate to steal my property. I could set the program up as a one time download that cannot be saved, installed only once, and require repurchase if it is to be downloaded again, but that would not be very kind. This will also keep somebody from just handing out copies of this program to others for free.


This is something I never understood. We are not buying software here. We are buying the privilage to use somebodies product, regardless of the stipulations. If you don't like the stipulations, you don't buy the product. Kind of like flying an airplane. If you don't agree with the regulations (weather it be FAA or other), don't bother trying to fly anything, go boating instead. Then again, you have regulations on boating also... By saying it is illegal to do what MS is doing, you are also (quite truthfully and correct) saying that government is also illegal.

Regardless, think from a software company's point of veiw. how else would you do it, and do you really expect it to work? I don't see a problem with it. If I did, I wouldn't buy the program.
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby Skligmund » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:57 am

Like I said, I have no problem with it, but it should be clear on the box that this is "rental" software, not something you purcahse and "own".



Where does it say you own the software and not the license? I actually haven't looked, but now I'm curious.
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby Politically Incorrect » Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:56 am



Where does it say you own the software and not the license? I actually haven't looked, but now I'm curious.


All software comes with a EULA (End Users License Agreement) Most time it will display when you are starting the install process and can usually be found in the programs folders. This is the long "legal" mumbojmbo that most people just overlook and click the "I accept" button. It is here that it will state exactly what you can and can not do with the software your installing. All software has one.

FYI this is also where you will find whether or not the software your installing may also contain other third party software, most times, spyware/adware, toolbars etc.. So it is important you read these and not just accept them.

I can't count the number of times that someone contacted me asking why their homepage had been changed or something only to find that some program was installed "without" their knowledge, but then to find that they installed it themselves but unknowingly due to the fact they didn't read the EULA ;)
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby Skligmund » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:32 am

I know WHAT the EULA is, I'm just curious where IN the EULA it mentions that you OWN the software, and not the license to USE the software.

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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby vololiberista » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:01 pm

I know WHAT the EULA is, I'm just curious where IN the EULA it mentions that you OWN the software, and not the license to USE the software.
:P


The software co's and their lawyers will have you beleive that you can use their software with their gracious permission and that you have only bought the licence. However, at least under European law one owns the programme in the same sense as one owns a music single. European law will only go with the Eula if copyright is infringed. Thus "Sorry you can only have two goes at installing" cannot be enforced here. dictating hopw when and where one can use the software, how often one can upgrade etc., is seen as monopolistic behaviour!!
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby MarcoAviator » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:24 pm

I would think that the problem you may run into would be if you had both PCs connected to the internet at the same time with FSX running....


As already mentioned by others I don't think that FSX can do that. On the other hand that's not a problem for me because I plan to remove FSX from my old box before I install it on the new one.

So ... no issues there.

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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby Politically Incorrect » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:50 pm

I know WHAT the EULA is, I'm just curious where IN the EULA it mentions that you OWN the software, and not the license to USE the software.

:P

Sorry when its stated you haven't looked, one is to assume you didn't know what the EULA is ;)
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby Skligmund » Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:46 pm

Well, I haven't looked very closely at it, and I didn;t look for that specificly. I just look for the phrase such as "And your first born child" and such.   :P
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby MickeyMouse » Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:17 pm

The last software packages I purchased simply had a box that once you opened it, had a CD case in it.
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby Skligmund » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:27 pm

If you call Microsoft on their toll free 800 number, they will refund you if you don't agree with the EULA.
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Re: FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

Postby JBaymore » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:38 am

M(qualcosa)s



What the heck does that actually mean?

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