Downloaded Embraer 135 Delta Con. no gauges

[Hagar]

HAGAR: "I'm not sure where kumark got that Panel.cfg entry but it's not from any of the Embraer 135s that I've tried. I suspect the PkyNosegearsteerling XML gauge controls the animation of the nose leg & not the flight dynamics*. I don't think it will work if it's not defined in the model.

*The nose gear steering angle is usually defined in the [contact_points] section of Aircraft.cfg."


The nose gear steering angle seems to be fine as in it turns in the correct direction and accurate deflection. But then it skids along as if on ice and unless you're going very slow you won't make your turn. I've had this three or four other NON Posky A/C in the past too. I rechecked the contact points in the A/C CFG and it's at 70.0 which is fine. Still skids.

Hawkeye

Don't be confused by the animation on the visual model. It looks rather over-sensitive to me but I don't think it's related to the steering angle in the Aircraft.cfg. You could try reducing it from 70 in easy stages to see if that fixes the skidding. Otherwise I'm out of suggestions.

One thing about this I find rather odd. I have two installations of FSX, Gold + Acceleration on my WinXP desktop PC & the basic FSX Deluxe on my Win7 64-bit laptop. Neither has msvcr70.dll in the FSX root folder yet the FS9 default lear.gau displays perfectly on both. Figure that one out.

[dcmair]

got the American & CityJet Embraer. All gauges work in the 2D panel. Nothing works in the 3Dpanel. Useless at this point for me.. Every OpenSky airplane nosewheel skids when you turn like its on ice.
I don't think they ever got around to solving the problem....

[Hawkeye07]

HAGAR:
"Don't be confused by the animation on the visual model. It looks rather over-sensitive to me but I don't think it's related to the steering angle in the Aircraft.cfg. You could try reducing it from 70 in easy stages to see if that fixes the skidding. Otherwise I'm out of suggestions.
One thing about this I find rather odd. I have two installations of FSX, Gold + Acceleration on my WinXP desktop PC & the basic FSX Deluxe on my Win7 64-bit laptop. Neither has msvcr70.dll in the FSX root folder yet the FS9 default lear.gau displays perfectly on both. Figure that one out. "

Hawkeye Sez: Truth is stranger than fiction! I'll keep experimenting and if I come up with anything I'll let you know.


dcmair:
"...Every OpenSky airplane nosewheel skids when you turn like its on ice. I don't think they ever got around to solving the problem...."

Hawkeye Sez: Oh well, Douglas never solved it on the DC-9 and Boeing never solved it on the B727 either.

[kurmark]

now my Embraers 135 and 145 are stearing well... the faults are in the aircraft.cfg

hydraulic and other systems are doubled You must edit and remove the doubled entries

[hydraulic_system]
normal_pressure = 3000.0 //PSI
electric_pumps = 1 //no electric pumps
engine_map = 1,1,0,0 //pumps on Eng1,2

best regards

kurmark

[Hagar]

now my Embraers 135 and 145 are stearing well... the faults are in the aircraft.cfg

hydraulic and other systems are doubled You must edit and remove the doubled entries

[hydraulic_system]
normal_pressure = 3000.0 //PSI
electric_pumps = 1 //no electric pumps
engine_map = 1,1,0,0 //pumps on Eng1,2

best regards

kurmark

Excellent! That makes all the difference. Well Done!

[Hawkeye07]

WTF!!!!! I tried the above fix - No Joy! Then just a moment ago I downloaded and installed the Aircraft CFG fix from the downloads again No Joy!!!

What the !:{(&^#*>"?<$@*!! The nose wheel steering on every other aircraft in my inventory works fine. I give up! EJECT! EJECT!!




Hawkeye

[Hagar]

WTF!!!!! I tried the above fix - No Joy! Then just a moment ago I downloaded and installed the Aircraft CFG fix from the downloads again No Joy!!!

What the !:{(&^#*>"?<$@*!! The nose wheel steering on every other aircraft in my inventory works fine. I give up! EJECT! EJECT!!




Hawkeye

The problem is that the [hydraulic_system] entries are duplicated. Use the Notepad Edit/lFind feature to search for the second one & delete the complete 4 line entry. You might need to restart FSX for it to take effect.

PS. kurmark's modified Aircraft.cfg files should fix it.

[dcmair]

HAGAR:
"Don't be confused by the animation on the visual model. It looks rather over-sensitive to me but I don't think it's related to the steering angle in the Aircraft.cfg. You could try reducing it from 70 in easy stages to see if that fixes the skidding. Otherwise I'm out of suggestions.
One thing about this I find rather odd. I have two installations of FSX, Gold + Acceleration on my WinXP desktop PC & the basic FSX Deluxe on my Win7 64-bit laptop. Neither has msvcr70.dll in the FSX root folder yet the FS9 default lear.gau displays perfectly on both. Figure that one out. "

Hawkeye Sez: Truth is stranger than fiction! I'll keep experimenting and if I come up with anything I'll let you know.


dcmair:
"...Every OpenSky airplane nosewheel skids when you turn like its on ice. I don't think they ever got around to solving the problem...."

Hawkeye Sez: Oh well, Douglas never solved it on the DC-9 and Boeing never solved it on the B727 either.

Dave Sez lol--lol what the hay is that statement. Dc-9 and 727 either. (quote) It all boils down to the person that came up with the file, (and I thank him for his talents), uploaded it, but did not follow through by testing it, testing it, and testing it. Otherwise it would not have shown up in the shape it did. Some people download an aircraft, and then you can't stop the damn thing on the runway. Got to go into the aircraft file and fix the brakes. 0000 or 800 on the way the aircraft takes off on autopilot to gain altitude or comes down out of altitude. Don't think so...Aircraft is all over the sky with the yoke especially on landing. A joke to land the plane. Aircraft cfg file to settle it down. Some fantastic people that come up with great files, but maybe sometimes to much of a hurry.
to upload. I wished I had their talents. They are few of a kind..

[Hawkeye07]

dcmair:
"...Every OpenSky airplane nosewheel skids when you turn like its on ice. I don't think they ever got around to solving the problem...."

Hawkeye Sez: Oh well, Douglas never solved it on the DC-9 and Boeing never solved it on the B727 either.

Dave Sez lol--lol what the hay is that statement. Dc-9 and 727 either. (quote) [/quote]

The REAL LIFE DC-9's and the B727's are notorious for being light on the nose gear. Both of them are very tricky to taxi either on ice or packed down snow. Trying to tow either one with a tow tug was/is also a lot of fun, especially trying to push one into a hangar on a snowing or icy ramp with any hint of an incline. Rule #1 Don't try to "gun it" because the plane will jack knife on you quicker than you can say Oh sh_t!
I still haven't cured the skid problem. As I said earlier, I tried the "Delete the second Hydraulics entries" ( all 4 lines ) BEFORE I cranked up FSX **NO JOY
Then I tried the "new and improved CFG" posted in the downloads. It's just another CFG with the second Hyd. entry already deleted. **STILL NO JOY.
As a last resort I went to Flightsim.com and downloaded another Posky EJR135LR file and tried that after I deleted the first copies. **AND STILL NO JOY!!!

Time to jettison the dead weight!

Hawkeye

[Hagar]

I still haven't cured the skid problem. As I said earlier, I tried the "Delete the second Hydraulics entries" ( all 4 lines ) BEFORE I cranked up FSX **NO JOY
Then I tried the "new and improved CFG" posted in the downloads. It's just another CFG with the second Hyd. entry already deleted. **STILL NO JOY.
As a last resort I went to Flightsim.com and downloaded another Posky EJR135LR file and tried that after I deleted the first copies. **AND STILL NO JOY!!!

Time to jettison the dead weight!

Hawkeye

Just wanted to make sure there was no misunderstanding. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

After doing kurmark's CFG tweak I noticed a big improvement in the ground handling but the nose-wheel animation is still very touchy.

[Modlerbob]

I still haven't cured the skid problem. As I said earlier, I tried the "Delete the second Hydraulics entries" ( all 4 lines ) BEFORE I cranked up FSX **NO JOY
Then I tried the "new and improved CFG" posted in the downloads. It's just another CFG with the second Hyd. entry already deleted. **STILL NO JOY.
As a last resort I went to Flightsim.com and downloaded another Posky EJR135LR file and tried that after I deleted the first copies. **AND STILL NO JOY!!!

Time to jettison the dead weight!

Hawkeye

Just wanted to make sure there was no misunderstanding. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

After doing kurmark's CFG tweak I noticed a big improvement in the ground handling but the nose-wheel animation is still very touchy.

Same here, much better ground handling. I never noticed that problem before the gauge fix as I would end the flight before it ever started.

[Victory103]

Testing now and on the recently released ERJ-145 United Exp (TSA) colors for the steering issues. I also abandoned the FSX LJ45 .xml gauge cross over without having FS Panel Studio.

[PhantomTweak]

Just a small, totally irrelevant, but related side note that has nothing to do with simulations:

My father, a long time UAL pilot and very senior Captain upon retirement , always hated the 727's, especially for landings, and double especially crosswind landings . Apparently that big ol' T-Tail configuration was nothing but a nice big parachute to grab the crosswinds and slide the nose all over the runway, even during taxiing. He hated it. LOTS of differential brake steering on that bird!

Just thought I'd interject a touch of the Real World, whatever that is into the discussion

Pat☺