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I am in a quandary, Chums... ...

I use my trusty FS 2004 every day, since it was first released, mostly for exploring North America, (Its got some nice scenery...in places!).
Over the years I have added all sorts of bits and bobs, both freeware and payware, to make the scenery above and below as "nice" as I can get it!

At the mo I have:

FS Global (FS 2004) (World Mesh).
Real Environment Xtreme (FS 2004).
Ground Environment Pro (FS

Fozz

Do you have Howards Mix...here
http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1 ... p&x=21&y=9

It's nice

Dave

Fozz

Do you have Howards Mix...here
http://simviation.com/1/download-file?f ... ileId=3458

It's nice

Dave

Ta, Dave... ...

Howard's Mix:

Not one I was familiar with!

BIG file 114 MB!...downloading it now... ...!

Will give it a try.

Paul...FS 2004... 8-)...!

Download completed...
..but I think I may have to be careful with this before I install it...

Its a 2008 Program and I fear that my recent, various upgrades to my FS 2004 may be superior to the earlier Howard's Mix?

A lot of work may be introduced in correcting any discrepancies between the two installations...mine, and Howards!

An un-installation? of Howards Mix may create problems!

Howard's program may be more suitable for an initial, fresh (default) installation of FS 2004.

So I'll hang on to it for a while, Dave.... ...!

Paul...FS 2004... 8-)...!

...any more thoughts on; "Ultimate Terrain for North America, for FS 2004"?... ...!

Download completed...
..but I think I may have to be careful with this before I install it...

Its a 2008 Program and I fear that my recent, various upgrades to my FS 2004 may be superior to the earlier Howard's Mix?

What you can probably do is install Howard's Mix to a dummy folder to see what it will replace; then backup as appropriate (or if you have the disk space, the entire FS2004 folder). This way, if you don't like it you can just restore the backups.

I don't have it at the moment so sorry I can't be much more help.

Hey Fozzer
I have UT Can/Alaska and it is one of the most important pieces of my install....especially if you are using real maps for navigation. I fly mostly in and around my local area (SW coast of Canada) and there is no comparison to the way everything fits together correctly compared to the default scenery.
Strongly suggest it.
Cheers
Romflyer

Hey Fozzer
I have UT Can/Alaska and it is one of the most important pieces of my install....especially if you are using real maps for navigation. I fly mostly in and around my local area (SW coast of Canada) and there is no comparison to the way everything fits together correctly compared to the default scenery.
Strongly suggest it.
Cheers
Romflyer

Many thanks, Rom!.... ...!

I think I will dive in and get it....

Well Fozzer, looking good at low altitude is more about textures (as I'm sure you allready know) UT terrain is more about correcting coastlines, roads, and as you have noted railways. It also adjusts  landclass to closer represent the real world.
Your textures are being handled by GE pro...? and/or VOZ

Good luck, and let us know how you make out.

Good morning Paul...

I have on Disc from Flight 1 Software:

FS2004
Ultimate Terrain...Canada & Alaska

Paul,

Reinstallation of F1 download products is a lot easier now. Create an account using your email address used during purchase (you can do it now or later). For reinstall the installer can verify thru your account (called a Keyless Install),

As far as the disk/re-install concern......if I remember right UT Can Alaska was only about 200mb which was HUGE five years ago when I got it but by todays standards its no big deal.....as for the re-install, I recently did a wholesale hardware upgrade and barely survived the process of getting all the important bits back in place    the worst software to get re-installed and running was GE pro..... but UT was simple, just run the setup.exe and it was installed

Fozz, hows about some pictures of things we'd all recognize when you get it all sorted? I'd love to see some really good scenery. Thanks.

Present location: Daydreaming about a medium rare steak, grilled onions and a massive baked potato under gallons of bleu cheese dressing. A craftbrew to wash it all down. Good eatin'...

I think if I ever have to reinstall fs9, Ill install UT, but until that time Ill live without it.  It seems to me it should be the very first addon installed after a fresh fs9 install. Otherwise you could spend days trying to track down every interaction.

In my mind it should go something like:
FS9
Update to 9.1
Ultimate Terrain US
Ultimate Terrain Can/AK
Ground Enviroment Extreme (or Howards mix)
REX (w overdrive pack)
VOZ
and then all your local sceneries
and then aircraft

Am I wrong?
Sean

[quote]I think if I ever have to reinstall fs9, Ill install UT, but until that time Ill live without it.

Well Lads...

After much hair tearing, I finally managed to decipher Flight 1's complicated (for me!) instructions on how to download and install the program...(shades of REX and GE Pro!)... ..!
Early impressions are quite good... ...!

Improvements to the coast lines, and inland water-ways...(The Sacramento River and Central Valley flood plains are better represented!).
Water ways (rivers, lakes, and ponds, etc, are now equal to FSX).
Major and minor roads, (with stationary traffic).
Complete Railway line systems.
The scenery in parts, seems to be a mix of Photo scenery with added Autogen objects. (I don't particularly like photographic scenery, especially at low level).....
....but as the majority of the scenery is Autogen (objects), I can cope with it!
Special night-lighting is incorporated, but I haven't tried it yet...(I'm afraid of the dark!).
Some of the Autogen buildings are displaced (conflict) in certain places, (in water), but there's not a lot that can be done about that, and overall the effect is very good.

Much of the scenery is configurable before starting up the Sim, and a simple click can re-engage your original scenery if required...which is nice!... ...!
So...
Together with my VOZ, GE Pro, REX, etc, the addition of Ultimate Terrain for North America looks good..so far...and saves me from running my copy of FSX!.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]...!

...more news later... ...

Paul...FS 2004...and a Google Street Map... ...!

P.S...it also reveals more Golf Courses than you can shake a No. 5 Iron at!... ....!