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Aircraft and Water

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:51 pm
by Boeing King
Hi , This is my first post ( hope I'm doing this right ) and I need some help!

I've seen on youtube and some planes I've seen can land on water , No I'm not that new , I know that some are amphibious but I'm talking about boeings ( which I am the king of ) crashing into the water or dithcing into the water.

If anyone can help with that please do!

Also I've downloaded many aircraft and would like to know any high quality airlines and jets Civil or military and any high speed aircraft ( I have AVRO and that can go mach 7.2 )

Thankyou very very much in advance!!!!

Re: Aircraft and Water

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:08 am
by Hagar
Hi , This is my first post ( hope I'm doing this right ) and I need some help!

I've seen on youtube and some planes I've seen can land on water , No I'm not that new , I know that some are amphibious but I'm talking about boeings ( which I am the king of ) crashing into the water or dithcing into the water.

If anyone can help with that please do!

Hi there. What is it you want to know? The most successful ditching in the history of aviation involved an Airbus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549

Re: Aircraft and Water

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:08 am
by pete
Hi, Welcome.

Re: Aircraft and Water

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:22 am
by Boeing King
Hi , This is my first post ( hope I'm doing this right ) and I need some help!

I've seen on youtube and some planes I've seen can land on water , No I'm not that new , I know that some are amphibious but I'm talking about boeings ( which I am the king of ) crashing into the water or dithcing into the water.

If anyone can help with that please do!

Hi there. What is it you want to know? The most successful ditching in the history of aviation involved an Airbus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549



Ahh , sorry for the mistake , I was in a rush . What i want to know is how they did it because I wouldn't mind trying my emergency skills out :).

Re: Aircraft and Water

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:25 am
by Boeing King
[quote]Hi, Welcome.

Re: Aircraft and Water

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:51 am
by Strategic Retreat
Hello , yes I would like to know how they modified an aircraft to "ditch' in water.


The simplest way, that does not require Aircraft.CFG editing, is entering in the realism settings and disable ALL the crash recognition options... thing this I suggest you have always off anyway because the collision routines of FS are quite pitiful. :P

After having disabled the collisions, your plane will not give you a crash with reset of the flight and, within reasons, you'll be able to simulate a ditch as well. :)

"Within reasons", because to simulate a well executed ditch, you MUST follow some rules (slow down the plane, touch water with a certain pitch, and so on) that if you don't follow, can make the plane bounce around like an almost unstoppable gum ball (to stop which press "Y")... but then, if your plane does that, you'll know without a doubt your ditch has failed, won't you? ;D

Re: Aircraft and Water

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:15 pm
by Boeing King
Hello , yes I would like to know how they modified an aircraft to "ditch' in water.


The simplest way, that does not require Aircraft.CFG editing, is entering in the realism settings and disable ALL the crash recognition options... thing this I suggest you have always off anyway because the collision routines of FS are quite pitiful. :P

After having disabled the collisions, your plane will not give you a crash with reset of the flight and, within reasons, you'll be able to simulate a ditch as well. :)

"Within reasons", because to simulate a well executed ditch, you MUST follow some rules (slow down the plane, touch water with a certain pitch, and so on) that if you don't follow, can make the plane bounce around like an almost unstoppable gum ball (to stop which press "Y")... but then, if your plane does that, you'll know without a doubt your ditch has failed, won't you? ;D



Thankyou so much.

Re: Aircraft and Water

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:52 pm
by Jaypee Dippel
It is posible to add float points to the CONTACT POINTS section of the aircraft.cfg file. All amphibious and sea planes have float points, if they are added in the correct position your jumbo jet or any aircraft will land and float on water.

[contact_points] //AMPHIBIAN AIRCRAFT FOR REFERENCE

        //0  Class   <0=none,1=wheel, 2=scrape, 3 or 4=float 5=water rudder>
        //1  Longitudinal Position        (feet)
        //2  Lateral Position             (feet)
        //3  Vertical Position            (feet)
        //4  Impact Damage Threshold      (Feet Per Minute)
        //5  Brake Map                   (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
        //6  Wheel Radius                (feet)
        //7  Steer Angle                         (degrees)
        //8  Static Compression          (feet)  (0 if rigid)
        //9  Max/Static Compression Ratio
        //10 Damping Ratio  (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
        //11 Extension Time              (seconds)
        //12 Retraction Time             (seconds)
        //13 Sound Type
        //14 Airspeed limit for retraction (KIAS)
        //15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)

max_number_of_points = 17
point.0 = 1, 7.46, 0, -3.17, 1500, 0, 0.5, 22, 0.45, 2.0, 0.7, 3.9, 4.1, 0, 101.2, 110            //nose gear
point.1 = 1, -1.44, -3.08, -3.27, 3500, 1, 0.7, 0, 0.6, 1.5, 0.7, 4.0, 3.9, 2, 101.2, 110      //left gear
point.2 = 1, -1.44, 3.08, -3.27, 3500, 2, 0.7, 0, 0.6, 1.5, 0.7, 4.1, 4.0, 3, 101.2, 110      //right gear

point.3 = 2, 7.46, 0, -1.25, 1800, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5                              //nose impact point
point.4 = 2, -14.73, 4.4, 6.3, 950, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9                              //rudders point
point.5 = 2, -14.73, -4.4, 6.3, 950, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9                              

point.6 = 2, 1.515, 16.96, 2.59, 1550, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5                        //right wing
point.7 = 2, 1.515, -16.96, 2.59, 1550, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5                        //left wing
//FLOAT POINTS BELOW
point.8 = 4,  5.25, -2.710, -3.40, 1600, 0, 0.00,  0.0, 0.65, 2.5, 0.85, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0            //hull
point.9 = 4,  5.25,  2.710, -3.40, 1600, 0, 0.00,  0.0, 0.65, 2.5, 0.85, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
point.10 = 4, -8.00, -1.910, -3.10, 1600, 0, 0.00,  0.0, 0.65, 2.5, 0.85, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
point.11 = 4, -8.00,  1.910, -3.10, 1600, 0, 0.00,  0.0, 0.65, 2.5, 0.85, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0

point.12= 5, -12.21,  0.00, -3.10, 1600, 0, 0.00, 25.0, 0.0,  0.0, 1.00, 1.1, 1.5, 4, 0, 0      //water rudder

Hope this helps