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Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:47 am
by ShaneG_old
Are there any downsides to removing the default aircraft from the game other than losing the multiplayer 'default to' option when two players don't have the same plane?

I never use them, and I've removed and replaced the default traffic.bgl, so to me, they're just dead weight in the sim, but I wanted to ask some experts before messing about.

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:46 am
by Fozzer
For safeties sake, I would say...NEVER!

You can probably move things around, and put them in special Folders, but I would never recommend "Deleting" any Default Files!

Many add-ons are "Aliased" to Default files, objects, etc..

They probably take up very little room on the Hard Drive, anyway.

Deleting "things" often creates problems, and necessitates a Re-install of the Sim!

If it aint broke, don't try and fix it!... ;)...!

Paul...ever cautious... ;)... ;D...!

Stop fiddling, Shane!... ;D...!

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:52 am
by Opa
[quote]Are there any downsides to removing the default aircraft from the game other than losing the multiplayer 'default to' option when two players don't have the same plane?

I never use them, and I've removed and replaced the default traffic.bgl, so to me, they're just dead weight in the sim, but I wanted to ask some experts before messing about.

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:55 am
by Hagar
I would never recommend "Deleting" any Default Files!

Stop fiddling, Shane!... ;D...!

I would have to agree with Paul. ;)

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:02 am
by ShaneG_old
It would appear as though I should just leave well enough alone then.  ;D  ;)

See, I'm glad I asked the experts.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I'm glad you mentioned the default flight issue Opa, as I wasn't aware of that, and I've come close to replacing that particular plane on many occasions.  :o

Thanks to all three of you.  :)

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:12 am
by Fozzer
If Uncle Bill and his trusty design crew received news that you were deleting various default objects in their precious Flight Simulator program, and negating all their hard work, you may well expect a visit from the Microsoft Heavy Gang knocking on your front door armed with weapons capable of delivering great pain and anguish... :o...!

Something I avoid doing... ::)...!

Paul...I hate unexpected Pain... ;)...!

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:31 am
by Daube
Shane, you wouldn't earn anything but a small amount of megabytes anyway. I understand that you never use them, but who knows. Perhaps one day you'll want again to check their fantastic virtual cockpits ;)

PS: of course I was not referring to the default liners. I was more thinking about the vintage planes, as well as the default Cessnas. In fact, they were all transferred into my FSX hangar and I fly them a lot:
- C182 (very often)
- Vega (from time to time)
- Vimy (from time to time)
- Comet (very often)
- Trimotor (very often)
- Jenny (very often)

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:00 am
by ShaneG_old
Shane, you wouldn't earn anything but a small amount of megabytes anyway.

PS: of course I was not referring to the default liners. I was more thinking about the vintage planes, as well as the default Cessnas.
- C182 (very often)
- Vega (from time to time)
- Vimy (from time to time)
- Comet (very often)
- Trimotor (very often)
- Jenny (very often)



The one's you've listed I could live with, but the Boeing jets, and the AI only planes are pretty useless, and poorly made compared to the freeware, and the few payware planes I've replaced them with.

It just seems like the more planes I add, the longer it takes to load up the sim.  HD space isn't the issue, I've still got 200GB free on my FS drive, I'm just looking to speed up the load time a bit.  ;)

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:07 am
by Fozzer
..and, as you know, the default Aircraft are absolutely vital for Pilots flying together in on-line Multiplayer sessions, and wishing their aircraft to show up correctly to each other*!

Flight Sim "Multiplayer" was designed around using the default Aircraft, and works very successfully in that Mode.

Paul..G-BPLF...FS 2004..FS Nav...and my trusty default Beech Baron 58..(I wouldn't be without it!.. :-*...!).

* (For the benefit of newcomers to on-line Multiplayer)

P.S. I think most of my extended loading times are more due to additional scenery and various additional effects I keep including in the Sim!.. :o...!

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:33 am
by aussiewannabe
[quote]It just seems like the more planes I add, the longer it takes to load up the sim.

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:04 am
by ShaneG_old
The AI is probably the large hit, but I only use a couple WOAI packs.

I'm running:

-ALL of the available PAI packs
-ALL of the available MAIW packages
-ALL of the VOZ 1.8 AI planes
-And several others that came with various scenery.

My problem is, is that my Aircraft folder is larger than the entire initial install.

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:41 am
by Fozzer
[quote]

One of my favorite FS past times is to just sit and watch the AI do it's thing at various airports around the world.

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:43 am
by ShaneG_old
;D ;D

My wife would prefer I stick to aircraft.   :-X  ;D

I'll have to let you do that kind of spotting for both of us.  :D  ;)

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:43 pm
by Zaphod
[quote] ;D ;D

My wife would prefer I stick to aircraft.

Re: Potential Issues removing default planes?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:35 am
by Daube
Wow, now that's some serious AI you got there Shane o_0'
Could be the source of your problematic loading times for sure. But deleting the two-three useless default liners won't really help compared to the 800 other aircraft remaining there ;)