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Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:55 am
by dim1309
I have a BAE 146-200 (Avro RJ-100) by Eurowings and I recently replaced its panel with Matthias Lieberecht's (great) panel. Everything works fine except the wing spoilers : They only deploy just a few inches up and that's all. Since this is obviously due to some incompatibility between Lieberecht's panel and Eurowings' design, I would be very thankful to anyone who can give me a hint on the necessary changes needed (panel or/and aircraft cfgs, perhaps) in order to fix this incompatibility. Thank you in advance !

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:33 pm
by Capt.Propwash
small question, what was wrong with the Eurowing's panel? (just asking so that I know to change it out too if there are too many problems)

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:40 pm
by dim1309
There is nothing wrong with Eurowings' Avro RJ panel, of course. It's just that it is not as realistic as Lieberecht's panel. He was a commercial pilot and he used to fly the Avro RJs. So he developed a FS panel for every version of the aircraft. It took him ...years to finish it. Which is not such a long time considering that he gathered the feedback of ...all his fellow Avro RJ real pilots who accepted to test the realism of it. It's a tough panel to learn but I think it is rewarding... :)

Here's the link in case you're interested :
http://www.baepanelproject.com/

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:13 pm
by Capt.Propwash
[url]http://www.baepanelproject.com/files/mlarjv41.zip
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is this the panel that you are having problems with.. in regards to Spoiler functionality? or is it a different one?

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:07 am
by dim1309
Capt.Propwash, first thank you for your response.
No this is Mathias' ARG panel group. He writes that the Avro RJ is very different to the Avro ARJ. So, following his note (and, since the textures I have are for the Avro RJ) I downloaded and installed this :

http://www.baepanelproject.com/files/ml146v40.zip

(BAe 146 panel version 4.0 for FS2004)

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:41 pm
by Capt.Propwash
I'll take a look at the panel.cfg and see if there is anything that I can pick out about the spoilers.

when you hit the / key, the spoilers do not go all the way up like they should?

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:44 pm
by dim1309
Exactly, Capt.Propwash...
I include a screenshot.
(Thank you in advance...).

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7277/83919956.jpg

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:50 pm
by Capt.Propwash
in the Aircraft.cfg...

look for section [airplane geometry]

under that section look for ..

spoiler_limit           = 45                    //Degrees
spoilerons_available    = 1                     //Spoilerons Available?
aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 3                   //Aileron to spoileron gain
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 10                //Degrees
min_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0                    //Minimum flap handle position when spoilerons activate


I dont know if your section will show that... I took this information from the default B747-400 so.

But you might be able to play with these numbers to get your spoilers to go up a little further.





I might try to start there while I am trying to look at the panel.cfg to see if i can see a control function that would control them. ... If anyone else has any other ideas of something to check/look at, feel free to chime in.

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:22 am
by dim1309
Nothing, Capt.Propwash...
Changing the values in these entries has no effect...
I suppose there must be some changes in the particular gauge (it is a XML gauge, so I suppose I will need a XML editor which I must learn to use it...).

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:31 pm
by Capt.Propwash
to learn XML, try the website http://www.w3schools.com/ (left side pane, 3rd section down.... "XML TUTORIALS".   you can also learn a lot of other things like HTML, XHTML, and a lot more that I really dont feel like typing, but are in the left side pane)

as for the panel itself, i have gone over that panel backwards and forewards, inside and out, and have found nothing pertaining to spoilers.

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:49 am
by ShaneG_old
The problem is, that there is no problem.

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:05 pm
by dim1309
.....I don't know how to thank you for this, Capt.Propwash !!!!

(Some ...pilot I am ! Never noticed the two spoiler hydrolics switches!!! lol).

Thank you so much for saving me

I will be glad to have the chance to return the favor anytime.

Re: Wing spoilers problem.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:11 pm
by Capt.Propwash
dont thank me too much, Shane was the genius that figured it out... i didnt even see the 2 switches either. lol