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I have been flying for some time now, i usual flies long haul heavys like 747-400, A340 and A380. I have learned to do a standard ILS landing with good results.

The thing is that i am keen to learn to land this queens on airports that have a lack for the ILS systems. Earlier when i couldn

Hi there,
here is what i would do
1. Line up your aircraft with the lines on the runway
2. pull the trottle down to at least 3/4 and "glide" towards the runway
3. put the wheels down (obviously)
4. once you pass the runway threshold, feather
hope this helps
Peter

So i should maintain aprox between 2000 and 3000ft (2500ft) just like on ILS and line up the aircraft with the HDG knobb? Check wich heading the runway have and then try to align the aircraft with the HDG knobb?

Fly it like you were flying an ILS except use the VASI for the descent guidance.

If the runway is moving up you're sinking too fast. If the runway is moving down, you're not decending fast enough.

The runway should remain stationary through the window during the descent.

Fly it like you were flying an ILS except use the VASI for the descent guidance.

If the runway is moving up you're sinking too fast. If the runway is moving down, you're not decending fast enough.

The runway should remain stationary through the window during the descent.

The things with the runways moving upp and down you mean the visual runway or do you mean the systems with the course knob and the systems on the PFD?

Forget the automation and look out the window.

The runway should not move in your visual field when you are descending to your intended landing target. That should be the white TD zone bars at the end of the runway.

Check that your pitch (or attitude) is correct and that you are on speed. The rest is just practice.

Forget the automation and look out the window.

The runway should not move in your visual field when you are descending to your intended landing target. That should be the white TD zone bars at the end of the runway.

Check that your pitch (or attitude) is correct and that you are on speed. The rest is just practice.

Thanks! I will test it

You also need to hit the V speed numbers and flaps speeds prettly closely.  Those depend on weight.  Come in either hot or slow and you'll have problems.

Take the real world approach:  Maybe go back and do it with smaller aircraft first.  Start with the Cessna......and work your way up.  When you can grease the landing with the C172...... use a more complex and "slipprier" single engine.  Then go to something like the Baron twin..... then a larger multiengine prop.  Then a smaller jet like the Lear.  Then multiengine AT-type jets.... but not the 747 yet.  Then take what you learn to the 747.

There is the famous question, "How do you get to Carneige Hall?"  The equally famous answer....... "Practice, practice, practice." 

best,

...................john

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Take the real world approach:

Landing skills can't be learned in big jets. You can try and try until you finally DO manage a landing that everyone walks away from.. but you won't really know how you did it. And likely won't do it again soon..

Climb into the C172 and practice flying by the numbers.. Be  VERY aware of airspeeds. Small, slow airplanes allow you to make mistakes and learn from them..  Big jets require precision.

The runway should be in the middle of your windshield. That said another way, point it where you want it to go. point it at the threshold and make sure the threshold stays in the middle of your view.

BUT Brett Henderson is absolutely correct. if you don't know how to land a 747, any survivable landing is pure chance. You should work your way up, learning skills.

...don't get fixated on the threshold!...or you will dive into the ground!.... ...!

Keep an eye on the far end of the runway to line yourself up and accurately adjust your height above the runway...easy does it, to float gently down... ...!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004... 8-)...!

..why are Runways/Airstrips always so narrow in the Sim?.... .... ....!

Another 2 cents' worth:
There is no magic formula; it takes practice.
But two things are critical:airspeed and the sight picture.

Your airspeed should be appropriate, and stabilized well out on final, with the airplane configured for landing (gear and flaps).

I didn't thoroughly read all the responses so if this repeated, my appologies...

When you're lining up for landing, what are you focusing on? The end of the runway closest to you? You may find it easier to "see" your alignment if you focus on the far end of the runway.

Your eyes can better determine "alignment" under what your looking at rather then on top.

I didn't thoroughly read all the responses so if this repeated, my appologies...

When you're lining up for landing, what are you focusing on? The end of the runway closest to you? You may find it easier to "see" your alignment if you focus on the far end of the runway.

Your eyes can better determine "alignment" under what your looking at rather then on top.

Your late arrival at this point in the discussion is not aided by your desperate apologies, Skittles...

All the important features regarding the Perfect Visual Landing procedures have already been discussed and settled upon, and everyone has now departed to the Pub for the rest of the evening.

If you hurry you may make it before Closing Time.

Paul... ... ... ...!

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