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Postby p63 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:27 am

Hi,
I have been given the RealAir Spitfire for FSX. However, FSX on my computer is awful, despite being able to run fs9 on full graphics.

Is there any way that I can make the Spitfire compatiable for use in FS2004? As I understand it, the textures are in a different format?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby Opa » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:53 pm

It is my understanding that if the aircraft was created following all of the FSX standards and guidelines, it is not compatible with FS2004.

Many "so called" FSX aircraft are not created that way however - they are FS2004 aircraft which have been been tweaked to work in FSX.
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby homebrewer » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:31 pm

I have several FSX planes and they all work wonderfully in FS9...
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby Hagar » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:45 pm

I have several FSX planes and they all work wonderfully in FS9...

I presume that these are not "True" FSX models created with the FSX SDK. They are most likely FS9 aircraft updated to work in FSX. The FS9 originals would probably be more suitable for FS9.
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby homebrewer » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:19 pm

I have several FSX planes and they all work wonderfully in FS9...

I presume that these are not "True" FSX models created with the FSX SDK. They are most likely FS9 aircraft updated to work in FSX. The FS9 originals would probably be more suitable for FS9.

I don't know. I downloaded 'em from the FSX portion of this and other sites, so I can only assume...
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby Opa » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:36 pm

Just because they may be listed here and on other sites under the FSX category does not guarantee the aircraft are "true" FSX aircraft.

As has been mentioned already, many "so called" FSX aircraft are really FS2004 aircraft which have been tweaked to work in FSX rather than being designed from scratch as an FSX aircraft - following all of the Microsoft guidelines.

There is a significant difference.
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:25 pm

http://www.realairsimulations.com/list_ ... t08_buynow

You can buy an upgrade to get the FS9 model working in FSX. So I would give it a chance and see what happens.

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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby homebrewer » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:06 pm

There is a significant difference.

Maybe, but my being blind in one eye and unable to see out the other can't spot it...
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby Hagar » Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:03 am

There is a significant difference.

Maybe, but my being blind in one eye and unable to see out the other can't spot it...

What this means is that True FSX aircraft cannot possibly work in FS9. The MDL & textures are in an incompatible format. There will probably be a problem with 2D panels as the FSX default gauges are not included in FS9.
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby Ashar » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:51 pm

It was the same for true FS2004 models in FS2002. A prime example of it was Moach's 737 that showed up as invisible in FS2002. That aircraft alone was probably the only reason I ended up switching to FS2004 and I've been stuck with it since.
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby Fr. Bill » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:17 am

There is a significant difference.

Maybe, but my being blind in one eye and unable to see out the other can't spot it...


The difference is truly obvious. A "true FSX" aircraft has TWO .MDL files...

Just look in the default FSX C172 ..\model folder and you'll see three files. A "model.cfg" file and two .mdl files, one of which has an "_interior" suffix:

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cessna172sp.mdl.mdl
cessna172sp.mdl_interior.mdl
model.cfg


In short, if a ..\model folder has 3 files, it is a "true FSX model."

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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby Opa » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:51 am

Also there are differences in the .air file and the aircraft.cfg file.

A true FSX .air file has a few items removed and placed in the aircraft.cfg file as compared to a similar FS2004 .air and aircraft.cfg file.
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby homebrewer » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:57 pm

I have at least two that I believe to be FSX models: A Grumman AgCat and the Fokker DR-1. I can't remember from where I got 'em, but I am pretty sure the description stated they were FSX models.  Thinking they might or might not work, I downloaded and installed 'em only to find that for my purposes, they work 100%. I am happy with them. And ain't that all that matters? Why get into a urination contest about something so trivial? Keep 'em flying...
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby Fr. Bill » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:51 am

[quote]I have at least two that I believe to be FSX models: A Grumman AgCat and the Fokker DR-1. I can't remember from where I got 'em, but I am pretty sure the description stated they were FSX models.
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Re: FSX planes in FS2004?

Postby tcco94 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:30 am

Interesting..
I never knew that... Im going to start transfering my FSX downloads! :D


But why is it that payware products only list that its compadible with FSX or 9? If they can both work on both game?
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