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Sluggish 747 steering.

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Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:53 pm
by gypsymoth
I've just got the Project Opensky - Boeing 747-400V4 Virgin Atlantic NC and it steers as if the nose wheel tyres are flat. The default 747 is a dream by comparison. I've read all the steering stuff on the Posky site & have even moved the CofG to be over the nose wheel to no effect. I don't have problems with any other aircraft. I'd appreciate some help on this one. Can I change something in the aircraft cfg to help? or.....?
Thanks.
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:31 pm
by JBaymore
Most default aircraft are anything BUT realistic...... so it is likely not a good thing to compare them to anything.
Is it possible that the Posky one is far more realistic? After all, you have a lot of tons of aircraft that exhibits a LOT of inertia. On the ground it ain't gonna' turn on a dime, stop on a dime, or start moving quickly.
best,
....................john
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:24 pm
by gypsymoth
Even taking into account that this is simulation, the nose of the posky 747 only deviates by a foot or two to either side. I've watched plenty of aircraft moving at airports & if they moved like this one they'd be in big trouble. Posky's web site said their aircraft had the CofG toward the back, so I moved this one to over the nose wheel & it never made a blind bit of difference. I was hoping I could edit the aircraft cfg to change things....?
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

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Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:36 pm
by Hagar
I was hoping I could edit the aircraft cfg to change things....?
Rather than mess around with the CG that will probably affect the flying characteristics I would try tweaking the steering angle in the [contact_points] section. Reduce the angle rather than increase it. I note the Posky version is 80 degrees compared with the default 747 at 70.
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:24 pm
by gypsymoth
Thanks Hagar, I'll try that. Their facts section suggested moving the CofG forward to get more weight over the nose wheel, so I did. Didn't work.
I'll try your tip!'
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:33 pm
by Hagar
I had a brief tweaking session without any luck. Definitely something not quite right there somewhere. I note the centre main wheels also steer.
PS. I think that's the answer. Try removing the negative value of the steering angle for points 1 and 2. 15 degrees seems to work.
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:54 pm
by gypsymoth
I've looked at the nose wheel & see that it's not pointing forwards but towards the left wing (cockpit view) & is up to the axle in the runway, so as I don't know what to change I left it. Don't want to muck things up & make it worse (as if)
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

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Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:56 pm
by Hagar
Try this. You can always go back to the original CFG if it doesn't work.
point.0 = 1.000,
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

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Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:39 am
by gypsymoth
Thanks Hagar......I had another look at the posky FAQ & this problem could be due to missing xlm files. I've deleted this aircraft as it wouldn't work but I'll have another look at it & get back to you. It might just be also that I have a corrupted download - I remember loosing internet connection yesterday for a second or two but am not sure if I was downloading this 747 at the time. Phew :-?
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

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Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:42 am
by Hagar
My tweak might not be perfect but it considerably improved the ground steering. Shame you weren't prepared to at least give it a try.
It might just be also that I have a corrupted download
I doubt that. If your download was corrupt it wouldn't work at all.
PS. You're probably right about a missing file. There's definitely something wrong with the animation on the nosewheels & rudder.
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:35 am
by gypsymoth
Yes - there was an updae file I didn't know about. It steers quite well now. Thanks for your help.
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:20 pm
by Hagar
[quote]Yes - there was an updae file I didn't know about.
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:59 am
by gypsymoth
Yes. Odd that the item needs an update to work properly..... :-?
Cheers!
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:53 pm
by Ashar
Update your FDE to version 9.7 Revision D. Seems to rectify many steering issues I had previously noticed with the models.
Re: Sluggish 747 steering.

Posted:
Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:29 am
by gypsymoth
Thanks Ashar - will do ;)