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ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:07 pm
by JJH
ATC refers to my downloaded aircraft as "Experimental". Can this be changed? :-?

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:13 pm
by Sean_TK
Yep, under the GENERAL section of the aircraft.cfg, which should be directly below the section for liveries, there should be the following two lines:
[General]
atc_type=
atc_model=

...etc.

If your section does not have these lines, you can add them with no problems, and then try various entries to suite whatever aircraft your flying. Unless you are using EditVoicePack, the default MS list is limited when it comes to more exotic types, but feel free to experiment, there are more built in voice idents than you may think.

Here's an example of what can be found in one of my aicraft:
[General]
atc_type=TUPOLEV
atc_model=Tu154

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:49 pm
by JJH
Yep, under the GENERAL section of the aircraft.cfg, which should be directly below the section for liveries, there should be the following two lines:
[General]
atc_type=
atc_model=

...etc.

If your section does not have these lines, you can add them with no problems, and then try various entries to suite whatever aircraft your flying. Unless you are using EditVoicePack, the default MS list is limited when it comes to more exotic types, but feel free to experiment, there are more built in voice idents than you may think.

Here's an example of what can be found in one of my aicraft:
[General]
atc_type=TUPOLEV
atc_model=Tu154


Sean, there is no [General] section, but here is what the cfg shows:
title=ALPHA P-51D Mustang 1
sim=Mustang
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=1
kb_checklists=mustang_check
kb_reference=
atc_id=
ui_manufacturer=ALPHA
ui_type=P-51D Mustang
ui_variation=1. "atc_id_color=0x00000000
visual_damage=0
atc_heavy=0
atc_airline=
atc_flight_number=
atc_id_font=Verdana,-11,1,600,0
atc_parking_types=MIL_COMBAT

Can you tell me where to insert the atc_type and atc_model? :-?

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:00 pm
by JJH
Sean, I found the [General] section near the bottom of the cfg. Ignore my previous question, and I'll get back with my results. :-[

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:02 pm
by Sean_TK
Looks like Alphasim decided to make things difficult and didnt put that section in the standard spot, it is there however, just search for it. It looks like this:

[General]
performance=Manufacturer: North American\nModel: P-51D Mustang\nEngine: Packard-Merlin V-1650-7\nTakeoff Power: 1,490 horsepower\nCombat Power:  1,720 horsepower\nTop speed @ 25,000 ft: 437 mph TAS (Full throttle)\nTop speed @ sea level: 370 mph TAS (Full throttle)\nInitial climb: 3,475 fpm with full throttle\nArmament: (6) .50 caliber machine guns\nRange: 1,300 miles on internal fuel at optimal cruise\nRamp weight: 7,760 lbs.\n1 g stall, clean: 102 mph IAS (8,300 lbs.)\n1 g stall, landing: 85 mph IAS (8,300 lbs.)\nTakeoff weight: 9,650 lbs. (No payload, full fuel)\nMaximum weight: 12,403 lbs.
editable=1
atc_type=
atc_model=P-51

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:44 pm
by JJH
So far, so good. I am working on several aircraft: Mustang, Harvard, Spitfire, Mosquito and T33a. ATC recognizes Supermarine for the Spitfire and deHavilland for the Mosquito. Doesn't recognize North American for the Mustang and Harvard. Havn't tried the T-33a yet. But I'm getting the hang of cfg. Tks. :)

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:51 pm
by dave3cu
Here is a reference to FS2004 atc type and model entries.

http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/04fs/data/fltsimcf1.htm

Hope this helps....

Dave

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:54 pm
by JJH
At least I've gotten rid of "experimental" from the ATC's banter. Thanks for your help. :)

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:16 pm
by JJH
Here is a reference to FS2004 atc type and model entries.

http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/04fs/data/fltsimcf1.htm

Hope this helps....

Dave


Tks. Dave. Went and explored the site. Found a possible solution to a missing piece to the puzzle. There is a section which deals with Airline names, one of which is "Air Force". Since FS2004 doesn't recognize "North American" as a manufacturer, I tried, without success, to designate the aircraft as belonging to an airline called "Air Force" by inserting "Air Force" into the cfg file on the line "atc_airline=". That didn't work. Is there more to generating the airline name than just inserting it into the cfg file as I have done? :-?

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:22 pm
by Groundbound1
EditVoicePack will update ATC to be able to call North American.

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:42 pm
by dave3cu
Is there more to generating the airline name than just inserting it into the cfg file as I have done?


AIR FORCE and NORTH AMERICAN are both recognized by default ATC airline list.

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:09 pm
by Groundbound1
Is there more to generating the airline name than just inserting it into the cfg file as I have done?


AIR FORCE and NORTH AMERICAN are both recognized by default ATC airline list.

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:00 am
by dave3cu
Groundbound1,
Very possible I over looked that.


After re-reading the thread..no you didn't..

Re: ATC Aircraft Identification

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:18 am
by JJH
No confusion here, Dave. Everything has worked out ok with one small exception which I have posted separately.

Thanks to all.

Jim