atc!! nooo!

[chase s.]

i was flying from chicago o'hare to mccarran. because i stayed home sick, i was lying down then flying a little then lying, the whole flight took about 5 hrs when it sould of taken maybe two or three. aha but what happend was is that i declared a missed approach so they told me to turn a certain degree and climb 6000 ft.


so i did then they told me to decend to 4000 ft, i did that, and if you know las vegas, its surrounded by mountains, so atc basically told me to fly into the mountains! i was so angry!  :'(

[Iwannabeapilot]

Unfortunately, there's no way to stop ATC from doing this. remember that the FS ATC is artificially intelligent and is not aware of any sort of obstacles such as hillsides. The only advice I can give you regarding your flight to McCarran is to try not to execute missed approaches, or just don't use ATC for it.  ;)

Hope that helps.  :)

[Fozzer]

...you just can't beat looking out of the window at regular intervals and observing the countryside around you!... ... ... ...!

Now CSI Las Vegas, Gill Grissom and his trusty team, has got to investigate the resulting mess... ...!

F---G-BPLF.... ... 8-)...!

[wolfipilot]

... this is a shi*** situation, I have the same problems for example when arriving / leaving Innsbruck (LOWI, Austria). Actually it is one of the best airports I know because of the difficult approach, especially on the 08 instrument which, after passing over the airport at about 5000" AGL, requires a VFR full circle at about 3700" AGL, all of that between the mountains which are about 10.000 feet high :-) ... it's a funny instruction: "... follow the high-power-lines to where they split in two lines ..." ... just try it with a 737 - it's fantastic!

However: each instruction by ATC is simply wrong. Arrivial does not work, V-T-F doesn't fit, the STARs are totally wrong, same for the departures and of course the Go-Around procedures as well. As for the AI-traffic: it mostly announces "missed-approach" because AI simply can't manage the approach *ggg* ...

So here is my suggestion: simply forget about IFR at those airports. When receiving the ATC instructions for the landing procedure, I cancel my IFR plan and switch to VFR, doing the procedures simply as displayd in the respective charts for LOWI or what so ever airport. It's not realistic, for sure, but it works in a way.


Btw.: I recently had been in LOWI in real life. Here is what I experienced: about 10 minutes follwing the take off (DASH Q 100) we had problems with the aircraft so the PIC decided to go back to LOWI *gg* ... good luck he wasn't instructed by FS9 ATC ... we came back to the airport safely, but if you know about the difficult procedures the pilots have to do, you have a certain feeling of nervosity *gg* ... I have to admit!

BR
WP

[JBaymore]

remember that the FS ATC is artificially intelligent and is not aware............

Maybe "artificially UNintelligent" is a closer description?  

[Iwannabeapilot]

Maybe "artificially UNintelligent" is a closer description?  

I did think about putting that!  ;D

[Sovien]

[quote]i was flying from chicago o'hare to mccarran. because i stayed home sick, i was lying down then flying a little then lying, the whole flight took about 5 hrs when it sould of taken maybe two or three. aha but what happend was is that i declared a missed approach so they told me to turn a certain degree and climb 6000 ft.


so i did then they told me to decend to 4000 ft, i did that, and if you know las vegas, its surrounded by mountains, so atc basically told me to fly into the mountains! i was so angry!

[murjax]

I don't use FS9 ATC. If I want ATC, I go on VATSIM. Otherwise I just fly on multiplayer servers.