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Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:24 am
by Manbot_AMP
if im attempting a long flught e.g Austrlia-Italy, its most likely that my fuel wont last the whole way, is their a way to complete stop-overs to refuel and repair if neccesery on FS9? if no is their any add-ons to put this feature in?

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:35 am
by ozzy72
To refuel all you need to do is spot the wee petrol pump (looks a bit like a garage forecourt) at the airfield, taxi over to it and shut your engine(s) down. Then you'll refuel. As for repairs I've never had any problems ;)

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:42 am
by ashaman
To refuel you can to find, in the airports who have them, the fuel pumps. Alternatively, should the airport you landed in not have the fuel pump, you can always use the drop-down menu to change your fuel quantity at will.

Repairs in FS were never necessary, as the planes in FS (following the boast "as real as it gets" M$ way) are practically perfect and never break unless you crash or activate the time set damages in the damage menu. No Cessna/Piper/Partenavia/De Havilland/Whatever pilot would dream to max throttle and forget it there, in FS you can do that for all the time you like with absolute impunity. IRL you must be very attentive not to overheat the engine, in FS (beside some rare add-on planes that are the exception that confirms the rule) you can cook your engine at your heart's content and still keep flying.

What do you need repairs for in FS? ::) Better graphic sure, realism? Bleargh. :P

As real as it gets... my rear end.

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:45 am
by ozzy72
There are exceptions to the "max throttle" rule Ash, the RealAir Spit blows its engine if you do that... tis amazing how many people brushed up their dead-stick landings after the XIV came out ;D ;D ;D

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:58 am
by ashaman
...(beside some rare add-on planes that are the exception that confirms the rule)...


Allow me to quote myself. ;) The RealAir Spit is not the only one, I have known of at least other two planes (that at the moment can't remember) that are coded to react like the real one would to mistreatment. This doesn't mean they are the main course of FS though. Normally, in the common plane, add-on or default, you can take off redlining everything and forget it redlined. Nothing happens beside a superior fuel consumption.

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:21 am
by ozzy72
Nothing happens beside a superior fuel consumption.

And going like the clappers ;D

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:09 am
by crotiusf16
:-[ I had the misfortune with a Mirage, I just can't remember which package it was. I was skimming the Grand Canyon and when I reached a piece where it was to narrow to go through I went vertical and all of a sudden my engine light came on. Changing my view I realised that my engine was pouring smoke. My height wasn't enough and had to ditch my plane in the desert. I died of thirst because I didn't know how to survive over there.  :'(

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:23 pm
by N2744X
To refuel you can to find, in the airports who have them, the fuel pumps. Alternatively, should the airport you landed in not have the fuel pump, you can always use the drop-down menu to change your fuel quantity at will.

Repairs in FS were never necessary, as the planes in FS (following the boast "as real as it gets" M$ way) are practically perfect and never break unless you crash or activate the time set damages in the damage menu. No Cessna/Piper/Partenavia/De Havilland/Whatever pilot would dream to max throttle and forget it there, in FS you can do that for all the time you like with absolute impunity. IRL you must be very attentive not to overheat the engine, in FS (beside some rare add-on planes that are the exception that confirms the rule) you can cook your engine at your heart's content and still keep flying.

What do you need repairs for in FS? ::) Better graphic sure, realism? Bleargh. :P

As real as it gets... my rear end.


Actually, thats not true. In normally aspirated engines (not turbocharged), such as a Cessna 150, 152, 172, Piper Cherokee 140 and 180, the engines can be run at full power as long as you like. In fact, Climb power is the same as takeoff power (full throttle), and reducing the power for cruise is at the pilots descretion. Long story short, the engines are factory approved to run at full power for the duration of the flight. As long as they are not turbo charged, in which case, the factory usually sets a time limit. On the TSIO-520NBs that my Cessna 414AW has, the factory limit for full throttle at 35in ManPressure is 5min.

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:56 pm
by vololiberista
To refuel you can to find, in the airports who have them, the fuel pumps. Alternatively, should the airport you landed in not have the fuel pump, you can always use the drop-down menu to change your fuel quantity at will.

Repairs in FS were never necessary, as the planes in FS (following the boast "as real as it gets" M$ way) are practically perfect and never break unless you crash or activate the time set damages in the damage menu. No Cessna/Piper/Partenavia/De Havilland/Whatever pilot would dream to max throttle and forget it there, in FS you can do that for all the time you like with absolute impunity. IRL you must be very attentive not to overheat the engine, in FS (beside some rare add-on planes that are the exception that confirms the rule) you can cook your engine at your heart's content and still keep flying.

What do you need repairs for in FS? ::) Better graphic sure, realism? Bleargh. :P

As real as it gets... my rear end.


The FSDzigns L049 connie needs nursing especially during descent!! If one doesn't set the mixture cirrectly and the cowl flaps the engines die at a "critical moment" Also there is a DC6 model which is even more complicated
Vololiberista

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:01 pm
by Manbot_AMP
ok tanx 4 ur replries, i just got 1 more question, is their a way to add stop-overs in a flight plane ( im planing to do syd-rome)

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:41 pm
by ashaman
ok tanx 4 ur replries, i just got 1 more question, is their a way to add stop-overs in a flight plane ( im planing to do syd-rome)


You do this defining more than a flight plan. FS doesn't allow you to define a what you want to do. For the FS flight plan can't accept the (...horror...) necessity of a stop over, so if you want to do a YSSY-LIRF, you make lesser incremental flight plans. For example, Start at Sydney, first stop Darwin  You file a flight plan from Sydney to Darwin, and when you've refueled at Darwin you file another flight plan for... Bangkok for example. And so on and so forth.

Mine were simple examples, you can stop wherever you want in your FS. ;)

PS
Nice of you wanting to come here in my country, even if only virtually. A nice travel, fair winds e good time to you. :)

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:52 pm
by ashaman
Actually, thats not true. In normally aspirated engines (not turbocharged), such as a Cessna 150, 152, 172, Piper Cherokee 140 and 180, the engines can be run at full power as long as you like. In fact, Climb power is the same as takeoff power (full throttle), and reducing the power for cruise is at the pilots descretion. Long story short, the engines are factory approved to run at full power for the duration of the flight. As long as they are not turbo charged, in which case, the factory usually sets a time limit. On the TSIO-520NBs that my Cessna 414AW has, the factory limit for full throttle at 35in ManPressure is 5min.


I'm not really following you. :-? Are you speaking of a real plane or a simulated one? Real planes have strict rules of work, I know perfectly. But under FS a common plane that's not been coded to give a certain answer to the (mis)treatment of the pilot, will continue flying as long it has virtual fuel.

I was talking about simulated planes under FS, you know. The Real Thing is another matter. That's one of my pet peeves with a simulator that boasts to be "as real as it gets" (under whose definition though, M$ has still to tell no one). Nothing more.



The FSDzigns L049 connie needs nursing especially during descent!! If one doesn't set the mixture cirrectly and the cowl flaps the engines die at a "critical moment" Also there is a DC6 model which is even more complicated
Vololiberista


Those are exceptions, Volo. Nice, well done exceptions, but exceptions nonetheless. The rule under FS is different, you know.

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:15 pm
by Manbot_AMP
believe it or not i was born in italy ashman, and ive done syd-rom numerouse times. (i now live in sydney) i know that in a long trip like that their are at least 1 stop over.

thank you for you're help, iwill do it as u said.

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:33 pm
by ashaman
Why shouldn't I believe you. :)


Have fun, I will make a stop in Sydney myself in my actual world tour (virtual, of course [only virtual, sadly]). Will make my way there either from Easter Island or the Hawaii (have yet a way to go for now). :D

Re: Refuel - repair

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:41 pm
by Manbot_AMP
i have just landed at bankok to refuel. i have then taken off again and are now on the home stretch to rome (fiumicino) il keep u up 2 date regarding my progress.