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Postby onboard » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:06 pm

Can you give me some advice how to land,do not speak english very well and I can't understand what thet guy says at flight lessons is there other way to learn how to land and fly good???
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Re: give advice

Postby kilotango » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:21 pm

Welcome to this, i must say, high flying and low landing board.
You will meet a lot of funny, understanding and very good pilots. So take care.
About your question. I can only give you this advice.
Lesson practice. Lesson practice And over and over again......
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Re: give advice

Postby wji » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:07 pm

A good idea when practising landings is to (S)ave A Flight with the aircraft setup on approach.
This saves one a lot of time taking off and flying around to align with the runway.
Using the Saved flight, just keep doing it until you get it right
Remember:
1.) Power makes it go up and down
2.) Pitch controls speed

You want to go down: reduce power
You want to up: increase power
You want to slow the aircraft: raise the nose
You want to speed-up: lower the nose

Using power-and-pitch in combination will result in a good landing.
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Re: give advice

Postby ashaman » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:49 pm

For an ILS landing, refer to this post:
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 11322151/0

For a manual landing, follow first and foremost the lessons in FS9, then practice, practice, practice, practice.

Another suggestion is to get yourself a joystick with twist handle or a pedal system to control the rudder (helps immensely more than autocoordination).
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Re: give advice

Postby beaky » Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:30 am

Try to find instructions in your native language, but also remember: a landing approach is a picture.
The place on the runway where you want to land should stay in one place and grow larger... everything else should appear to move away from it. If your target moves up: you are too low. If it moves down: you are too high... etc., etc.

Also: many airports in FS have colored lights by the runway (VASI lights). they will tell you if the angle of descent is correct:
Red and  white: OK
All white: too high
All red: too low

You can learn to land by just trying to make the picture look this way... but try to fly as slowly as possible while descending.
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Re: give advice

Postby kilotango » Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:04 pm

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Have you ever crashed???? (outside the picture)
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Re: LANDING - give advice

Postby Mike63 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:24 pm

The point about speed and altitude control is right on the money -

Some other points to landing:

1. Scan airspeed and altimeter, and VSI
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Re: give advice

Postby beaky » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:24 pm

rottydaddy.
Have you ever crashed???? (outside the picture)


In real life, no... worst thing I ever did was burn up some brake discs after a longish landing in a 172 on a 2900-foot runway with an 840-foot displaced threshold (my passenger was vomiting; last time I'll let anything like that influence my decision-making in flight!).

In the sim: many, many spectacular crashes. It's so much more fun in the sim...  ;D
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Re: LANDING - give advice

Postby beaky » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:27 pm

The point about speed and altitude control is right on the money -

Some other points to landing:
que results in a "wing down, top rudder" technique for crosswinds, and becomes natural with practice.

One of the best things to do is practice "slow flight" at altitude, not worrying about lining up with the runway or hitting the ground.  Fly level at approach speed, practice speeding up and slowing down +/- 10 knots or so. see what power settings are need for the changes. Then, practice climbing and descending at approach speed at +/- 500 feet per minute, see what power changes are needed (often RPM changes, more complex airplanes use manifold pressure, jets normally fuel flow).

Once you have a feel for controlling airspeed and altitude, you will be a lot less confused in the landing practice phase.

Good luck!


Good advice. This is part of the real-world basic training syllabus: first you learn to handle the plane at its lowest speeds, then you learn to make a controlled descent at those speeds, then you try to land.
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