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cant figure it out

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:29 am
by boyanpilot
1.can you tell me what jaw dumper is use for?and when?I
dont know what it is and how to use it???
2.do you use V.O.R naviation ,when why on what flights..I dont know how to use it its just complicated..I have red all tutorials but nothing...


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Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:40 am
by Jakemaster
Yaw damper is a sort of autopilot function found on many planes, especially jets.  It prevents side slipping I believe, but Im sure Nexus will come around soon and tell all about it.  If I remember correctly, its turned on after passing 500 feet AGL

VOR navigation used to scare me too, but its quite simple.  You tune NAV1 to the VOR frequency, turn the OBS on the VOR instrument until the vertical bar lines up.  Then fly that heading.  If the bar slides out to the left, you are right of the VOR and need to turn left until you get the bar lined up again.  If the bar is to the right, do the same only to the right

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:56 am
by Brett_Henderson
That's pretty close..  Let me fine-tune a little   ;)

Jake just explained how to fly TO  a VOR from any given location.  That's the simplest form of VOR navigation. Saying that you're right or left of a VOR is a little mis-leading though. You're actually right or left of the radial that you selected intitially. Even at that point.. the VOR can be right in front of you and flown to on the new radial (just spin the OBS again until the CDI centers.. again..

The best thing about VOR navigation is that you can select specific radials ahead of time.. fly to them.. intercept them and then track them (in or outbound) to either another navaid or different VOR and a different radial. It's much more precise than trying to fly to an NDB on a pre-decided heading. Trying to decide and keep adjusting for wind correction while flying to an NDB can get pretty distracting in a busy cockpit. A known VOR radial is not only easier to track.. most Auto-pilots will hold them too.

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:01 am
by Nexus
I'll leave it to Brett to explain VOR. He's as good as they get around here :)

regarding Yaw Dampers, read here
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/ ... 70;start=6

Jake said that you engage it at 500feet above the ground. That is the case on some older systems. Reason for this is that they were connected to the rudder pedals and could cause intereference during the takeoff roll. I think that was the reason.

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:14 am
by Jakemaster
[quote]That's pretty close..

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:03 pm
by wealthysoup
and theres 360 radials coming from a vor station (one for every degree on your compass ;))

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:04 am
by boyanpilot
GPS is much easer ;D ;D ;D


V.O.R. someday I am sure...

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:35 am
by wealthysoup
GPS is much easermore complicated and awkward
V.O.R. somedayanyday I am sure...



;) ;D

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:17 pm
by boyanpilot
NO NO Wealthy soup....GPS route is much easer to fly than VOR o yeas it is.............hehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:40 am
by wealthysoup
learn to fly vor then argue with me...vors REALLY simple ;)

p.s. (to your oh yes it is...oh no it isnt ;)

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:26 pm
by Nexus
It all depends...older pilots (for some reason) have a hard time to adjust to GPS navigation and glass cockpits. Simply too much info for them

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:17 pm
by Brett_Henderson
Being able to load a complex, multi-leg flight plan in before you leave the ground.. and then having a moving map display that flight plan makes GPS navigation almost TOO easy.. Even if you're a VOR purist you can just punch in the VOR identifier.. ignore the moving map and use the VOR head (gauge) complete with a (more accurate)CDI.. Not to mention that the GPS is also a dead-accurate DME, of sorts.

Don't get me wrong.. I love VOR navigating (have since I was a kid) and avoid using the GPS in FS9 entirely (half of what you can learn in simming that's applicable to real flying is navigation)... But in real flying.. it's almost foolish to not use a GPS if it's there.. If for nothing else.. airspace awareness...

(I'm an old pilot *smirk*)

Re: cant figure it out

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:31 am
by boyanpilot
I will try than I will tell you wealthy soup ;D