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Problem with RW wx

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:28 pm
by beefhole
I remember a thread on this topic a while ago, but, as usual, the simv search function didnt help at all :P

Out of the blue, my real world wx is all messed up-I'm flying KJFK-KSLC and as soon as I pass Chicago my N2 and EGT go waaaaaaay into the red.  But I was encountering a fierce headwind, I was doing 365 kts GS before and when I check my GPS I'm now doing 512. Then the OAT catches my eye. +32 C. At FL340. Wind 288/00.  I went and checked all the winds and temps for every station and the temps were REALLY messed up. For example, a random temp sample-FL240-Temp: +35 Dewpoint: -4332. The winds at altitude are all calm too (surface winds are fine though). The clouds and visibility appear to have loaded fine however.

I tried emptying the temp internet files in My documents/Local settings, but that didn't help any. My default browser is Mozilla, and I remember hearing that it keeps temp internet files in a different place-does anyone know where?

Re: Problem with RW wx

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:16 pm
by garymbuska
I use netscape for a browser it is basically the same browser that firefox/mozilla has and have never seen the  problem you describe. On my system the weather files are kept on
c:\Documents and settings\xxx\my documents\flight simulator files(xxx is your name)
there are two files
previous flight.wx
ui generated flight.wx
I think the situation you encountered was a glitch or a system hicup  8)

Re: Problem with RW wx

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:52 am
by Brett_Henderson
Does the browser you run make a difference ?

Doesn't FS9 just contact the weather data site on it's own ?

Re: Problem with RW wx

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:56 pm
by beefhole
Does the browser you run make a difference ?

Doesn't FS9 just contact the weather data site on it's own ?

I've heard that one of the solutions to problems with succesful downloads of messed up weather is to delete your temp internet files, and I figure that if FS does in fact use the default browser (without actually openning it) to access weather, then it would've used Mozilla.  One would think FS doesn't go through a browser though (but the temp internet files thing is supposed to work).

So gary, is it safe to delete both those?

update: well, the weather is mostly working fine now-the winds have been fixed, and the temps arent totally wild now, but they're too cold. It's telling me it's -70 F at FL340, which is too cold I believe. Usually at cruise altitude it's about -21 C, this would be -56. Is anyone else getting this?

re-update: just checked aviationweather.gov, it actually is that cold! So I guess everything is peachy now.  Thanks for your help.

Re: Problem with RW wx

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:00 pm
by Brett_Henderson
If you have a home network and share files; you don't use any internet browser for one computer to "talk" to another. When you access a drive or directory it's just an address, like an IP... maybe with a port number ? Like when you run TeamSpeak.. browsers never enter the equation when you're connecting to a server.

I really don't know for sure, but my instinct is that what browser you use for surfing has no effect on how FS9 gets weather data.. I could be wrong.

Re: Problem with RW wx

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:23 pm
by garymbuska
You can delete both of those files as FS will make new ones each time you start it up.  8)

Re: Problem with RW wx

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:54 pm
by beefhole
I actually happen to work IT Brett, so I'm aware of how things like that work-thanks for the good explanation though.  Everything I know tells me that it shouldn't be going through a browser as well, and I don't think it does, but that doesn't rule out something being dumped into the temp internet files.

And thanks Gary ;) By the way, everything is working fine now-it must have been a glitch with Jeppessen.

Re: Problem with RW wx

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:51 pm
by Brett_Henderson
I used to work IT, back when it was called DP .. and it's had a half-dozen, two-letter acronyms since(and PCs booted to floppies and hard-drives were still on the drawing board). I learned how to make computers talk to each other before the internet and WAY before networking was cool, on an IBM S-30 with modems the size of microwave ovens. Later.. I had to keep 11 users happy on a Xenix (hybrid of Unix.. for-runner (sorta) to Linux) system.. when a router was something that had to be specifically desigend for each network. However.. networking Windows machines and browsing the internet are completely different beasts (except for IPs and sub-whatevers and ports and all that nonsense that made for a bunch of good jobs in the 90s (anybody who could keep Windows machines talking to each other could work anywhere they wanted).

Anyway.. if browsers store temporary files in other than default locations..AND for some weird reason, FS9 cares.. I'd be really surprised.

Re: Problem with RW wx

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:26 pm
by beefhole
Brett, really, I understand (and agree with) what you're saying completely-the only reason I keep mentioning the temp internet files is because I saw it on a trusted source.  I completely agree with what you're saying.