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problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:35 pm
by FsNovice
i have two problems with my cessna on FS9
1. when ever i land it always bounces about when i land but it eventually stops doing this. i use full flaps and cut my engine when over the freshold. any ways to stop it bouncing
2. is there a way to reset the rudder pedals in a cessna back to straight because when i adjust them i can never get it to say center.
Thanks

Re: problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:24 pm
by gryshnak
2. is there a way to reset the rudder pedals in a cessna back to straight because when i adjust them i can never get it to say center.

Are you controlling your rudder pedals with a joystick, or the keyboard?

Gryshnak

Re: problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:24 pm
by flyboy 28
On the first question, what is your airspeed? Because if you are stalling it dosen't matter how much flaps you have because you'll be sinking like a rock. ;)

And welcome to SimV too. :)

Re: problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:05 am
by FsNovice
gryshnak i'm using the keyboard to adjust the rudder perdals but i can never get them to stay in a straight line

when i land i'm not stalling by the way its just to fast i think but i dont know how to slow it down anymore

Re: problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:15 am
by Hagar
I think you would find this a lot different with a joystick with a separate rudder control. I'm not sure I could control an aircraft at all well with the keyboard. You might find it best to enable Auto-rudder in Aircraft/Realism settings.

This is copied from the list of key commands in FS9 Help.

Center Ailerons and Rudder    Num Pad 5
NOTE:  Make sure Num Lock is OFF before using Num Pad commands.

Re: problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:37 am
by FsNovice
i'll try the second thing you suggested. great thanks that worked a treat.

Re: problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:28 pm
by Mobius
For landing the Cessna, make your approach speed a constant 65 knots and use 2 notches of flaps (20 degrees I think), and make sure you flare before touching down.  Also, remember that the pitch of the airplane controls your airspeed and the power setting controls your altitude.  If you're too low, add some power, if you're too high, cut the power, and if you're too fast, pitch up a bit, and if you're too slow, pitch down a bit.  But it is important to maintain 65 kts.

And welcome to SimV also. :) ;)

Re: problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:16 pm
by FsNovice
thanks Mobius, that info about the speed really helped. i think i was doing about 80 on touchdown which was a tad too fast. i have now adjusted my landing routine but still using 30 degrees of flaps but more or less no engine and it works a treat. thanks guys for the advice. i can now land in peace.

Re: problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:45 pm
by Midnight_LS1
I hold a private pilot in a Cessna 172SP.  The landing speed with no crosswind component is 70kts.  Try that and see if it helps.

60 kts is used for a steeper descent for short field landing with a 50' obstruction.

About the rudder controls, using the keyboards will only move them to the angle as pressed (more press = more deflection) and it will not recenter unlike a rudder pedal joystick does.

Is this happening during flight?
Do you have the P-factor enabled or the torque effect engaged?
Because adding power will cause it to torque to one side and to counteract it, rudder is used.

In the single engine Cessna's, the rudder fin is off by 2* from the factory to compenstate for the single engine.

Re: problems with landing and rudder pedals

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:42 pm
by Mobius
The landing speed with no crosswind component is 70kts.


Are you sure?  I've had 65 kts hammered into my head, and I learned to fly at a relatively short strip (1900 ft) so if you were a couple of knots over or under you would land hard or float past the decision point.  I fly a 172SP also and I would think it would be the same, although the two airplanes I fly are almost 30 years old, so maybe it has changed with newer aircraft. :P  I was just curious though, thanks. ;) :)