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cancelled flight plans?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:42 pm
by VVM
hi

my last two flights to newark (one from chicago and one from orlando) have resulted in my flight plan being cancelled after the first stage of my decent.  both times i have been assigned to rwy 22L.  any ideas why my plans are being cancelled?  thanks in advance!

Re: cancelled flight plans?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:10 am
by Midnight_LS1
Did you respond to the ATC in a timely matter?  If not they cancel after not receiving a response after a few requests.  Meaning your on your own.

Re: cancelled flight plans?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:28 am
by VVM
The first time it happened i thought i might have missed an instruction.  But the second time i did not miss anything.  its really annoying coz i have been using fspassenger and all this has meant i am about 35-45 minutes late, and because i have to file a flight plan again it says i did not land at my inital destination, even if its the same place.  >:(

Re: cancelled flight plans?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:01 am
by ashaman
A question: how dense do you keep the AI traffic?

Happens from time to time that if the AI planes are too many and too much for the poor [derogative] default ATC they (the ATC) "think" they've instructed you about the flight but in reality no message has ever being issued to you. You have no way to know it and obiouvsly don't answer, and they cancel you flight plan.

It's one of the most spectacular bugs in the default ATC. Try to dial back the AI traffic density to 50% and see if it works.

Re: cancelled flight plans?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am
by VVM
ill try that, thanks

Re: cancelled flight plans?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:35 am
by wji
Sounds to me like we're not getting the whole story. I've never known FS9, ATC to just cancel an IFR clearance without prior notification.

In the twenty-eight months (2 yrs. 4 months) that FS9 has been out I've logged over 1500 hrs (mostly on IFR flightplans) and I've never encountered this anomaly; being a realworld instrument rated pilot may be a contributing factor :-)

If we had a verbatum transcript between crew and FS9 ATC it would help resolve why it's only happening to you. (We DO know what ATC was telling us, correct?)

P.S. We run Ultimate Traffic (UT) at 100% plus additional AI traffic_lotsa.bgl files.

Re: cancelled flight plans?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:31 pm
by garymbuska
I also have not had this problem I fly IFR on every flight except for when I am checking out a new plane. I have AI set to 100% and have three major airline traffic from project ai. and Have never experienced this. I have logged in excess of 2,500 hours of IFR flight.
I know of no reason as to why you are havig this problem unless you are running off the battery which will die after awhile and cause your radio to go out.
But you would also lose instruments as well I would think you would notice that.
I know of several aircraft that even if you use Ctrl + E to start engines with it will not always turn the generators on thus you run on the battery and it will die after a while.
I have assigned shift + B to turn on/off the battery
and shift + G to turn on/off the generators with. 8)

Re: cancelled flight plans?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:14 pm
by ashaman
I also have not had this problem I fly IFR on every flight except for when I am checking out a new plane. I have AI set to 100% and have three major airline traffic from project ai. and Have never experienced this. I have logged in excess of 2,500 hours of IFR flight.
I know of no reason as to why you are havig this problem unless you are running off the battery which will die after awhile and cause your radio to go out.
But you would also lose instruments as well I would think you would notice that.
I know of several aircraft that even if you use Ctrl + E to start engines with it will not always turn the generators on thus you run on the battery and it will die after a while.
I have assigned shift + B to turn on/off the battery
and shift + G to turn on/off the generators with. 8)


I really don't think that he took off from Chicago and flew all the way to Newark and had a elctrical out only on descent, was it so it should have happened way before, and (as you said) he would have lost the instruments as well. That and he would never receive the communication of his flight plan being annulled if his radio was dead.

The reason has to be another. Maybe not mine, though I remember this little bug discussed some time ago on some forum, but I really don't think it was an electrical out.