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Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:11 pm
by Phiz
Hot new computer, graphics superb - but still the maddening  distraction of shimmering trees. Can anyone suggest a remedy, or which Display setting is especially relevant. I've juggled with them all, but not much luck.

9.1
XP home
amd 4000+
Geforce 6800 GT
2 gigs RAM
300 hard drive

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:22 pm
by JBaymore
Phiz,

Try turning MIP Mapping in the sim Settings down to 4 or less.  Oh... and welcome to SimV.

best,

................john

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:23 pm
by Woodlouse2002
Thats an insane computer.

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:39 pm
by Saitek
Welcome to Simviation. 8)
As an added tip, play around with your graphics card settings. Never leave them as they come. If you wish ask someone who has your card in the hardware forum to post a couple of screenies of the settings so that you don't have to spend hours testing each and every change out. ;)

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:49 pm
by Phiz
Aw, shucks :-*

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:09 pm
by Foxtrot Sport
Yeah, it's all top of the line other than that 6800GT, it's way good, but that new 7800, holy crap.

-HF

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:24 pm
by Phiz
I'd already spent the kids' inheritance on that machine - to specify the 7800, I'd have had to trade in my wife. :o

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:05 am
by Woodlouse2002
I can see why. My computer has a full 700mhz. ;D

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:26 am
by Smoke2much
Thanks John.  I have a new system that compared to the old one is AWESOME so naturally I turned all of the settings to maximum and was disapointed to see the shimmer mentioned.

With mipmaps at 4 the sim is nice and smooth with FPS of 30 - 75 and there is no shimmer.

;D

Will

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:22 am
by JBaymore
No problem Will.  Good to see you here.....you haven't been around much lately.  Congrats on the new machine.

best,

...............john

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:01 pm
by wealthysoup
Ah...I was just experimenting with this problem a few days ago and i found that for my graphics card (9800 pro) you can have a mip map of 7 without blurs by going into the graphics cards settings and setting both Anti-Ailiasing and Anisotropic Filtering to 4x on slower machines this would probably slow the sim down but it should be fine on your computer...Oh and make sure you uncheck the anti ailiasing box in the displays setting in flight simulator. ( If you don't understand what I mean feel free to ask and I can post some screenshots for you, tell me if it worked anyway because if it works on my computer it might not work on yours and i'm wanting to see if that helps.)  8)

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:50 am
by Phiz
I had this problem licked on my old machine, so I've used the same settings on the fancy new one. Including AA at 4 and AF at 8, mipmap at 4 , which works best for me. But I still get the shimmers. Least obtrusive with weather set to Fall. I begin to wonder whether a factor could  be the new LCD monitor. Hit Pause for a screenshot, and no shimmer: great picture. Release Pause, shimmer again ...could it be all those pixels? Is there an expert on LCD/TFT monitors out there? ???

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:12 pm
by wealthysoup
I doubt if its the monitor because this seems to happen to quite a few people. Try changing your anit-ailiasing and anistropic filtering levels around a bit and you should be able to stop the shimmering

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:16 am
by Wingo
I find on my system any MIP setting above 4 or 5 produces the shimmering effect you are describing

Re: Shimmer and Shake

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:06 pm
by Phiz
I owe you a beer. Shuffled around in the Nvidia panel, and eventually found that reducing AF to 8 and bumping mipmap up to 7 produced the best result yet - ie, a degree of shimmer I can live with. Thanks a lot, Wealthysoup. [Intriguing pseudonym.    How come?]