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AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:06 pm
by hatter
Ok, no, I can't tell you where to get it, but I can tell you I want it. (So you're probably thinking  ::) but bear with me).

So, is this possible? I don't really care about real routes, I just want traffic density to increase and I want real liveries for AI aircraft.

Is it possible with freeware add-ons? I know stuff like UltimateTraffic adds a whole helluva lot, but if I can get the effect for free, Im not gonna go spend $30.

I guess that's my question.

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:32 pm
by JBaymore
Do a web search for "Project AI".

That's all you need.   ;)


best,

.................john

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:03 am
by pc8775
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/syb.c ... raffic.zip

This is what I used.  Might give it a look and see what ya think......   Paul

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:48 am
by sonic
I whole heartally agree with john on this Project AI is great

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:01 am
by dave3cu
Sonic,

I use USA Traffic as well.

Pro: uses ais-ai  commercial aircraft which have animated ground support equipment at the gate, including pushback tug.

Con?: Because it in part copies the default flight plans, you have some duplicate flights (same reg.numbers, flight numbers, departure times and 'formation' flying), if you have both active.



Dave

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:08 am
by hatter
Thanks all. Looks very nice. Tight like a tiger!

Awesome! Formation flying!   ;D

EDIT: That's it? A 6 MB download and you have everything? Or do you need to download those airline packs?

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:14 am
by wji
Some of us have the best of both worlds: UT and PAI :-)
P.S. UT is the best $29 bucks you'll ever spend.

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:27 am
by hatter
Another question: Does ProjectAI address traffic density? I mean, when I take off at O'hare midday, there's maybe 1 other plane on the taxiway?

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:20 am
by JBaymore
hatter,

Is your AI slider set to 100%?  That affects how much traffic you see.

With PAI and just SOME of the packages installed....... I have line ups on the hold short of 7 to 10 planes after about 10 minutes at such places.

Currently at RJAA it is one plane off per minute.  ;)  Bout same on arrivals.

best,

................john

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:37 am
by Brett_Henderson
PAI is   GREAT..

I still can't believe it's free  ;D

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:53 pm
by hatter
Bear with me fellas, my computer is awaiting repair parts, so right now, I'm on my non-FS system, asking about FS.

Well, I downloaded the packs.

So, how does one go about installing all these different packages? I mean, do they work for all the routes? What If you have a 3rd party airport? Do the planes not know where to go, i.e., taxi on grass?

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:32 pm
by Brett_Henderson
The installations are pretty straight forward. All they really do is change and/or add to a huge AI data file. It's really just a bunch of routes that reasonably replicate a good portion of the scheduled flights said airlines fly.

I can't imagine the research and work that went into it all. It's still probably the best, free add-on out there.

It incorporates a third-party program (Traffic Tools) to edit the AI file.

If you really want to learn about it.. Download and experiment with Traffic Tools first. You'll see (learn) how to

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:24 pm
by hatter
Ahhh, yeah, I think I'll go check out AFCAD.

So with PAI, will the default models/textures and AI flightpaths be deleted, or will there be 'Global Freightways' planes flying alongside the new real planes?

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:37 pm
by Katahu314
I have PAI. And from the looks of it, it keeps the default flights intact. I still Global Freightways and other defaults, but I also see Delta, American, British, and a load of others flying around. The new flights are just added in.

Re: AI Traffic like in UltimateTraffic, but free?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:59 pm
by hatter
Katahu314:

Cool. I might delete the default AI pathways. Maybe not.

Still, I find it strange that PAI didn't do an ATA pack w/ callsign AmTran. They have ATA Connection (Windy City, I think?), but no ATA.