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Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:23 am
by Ecko
Hey people!

I really need some help to figure these water textures out. I have already downloaded several water texture packages, like fs9wat.zip, morewatr.zip and so on. But when I follow the instructions, I just don't get any difference in the water.

So what I need your help with is:

1. Tell me exactly what package to download.

2. Give me absolute newbie instructions on how to install the package.

If it has something to do with my hardware, wich I doubt, heres my specs:

Intel P4 Prescott 3.4 GHz
2048 Mb PC3200 Dual Channel
GeForce 6800 GT 256 Mb
Maxtor 200 GB 8 Mb cache

I know its annoying giving an absolute newbie instructions, but I would really appreciate it!

Thanks..

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:08 am
by Carlo
Hi Ecko,

Did you put your realism for water to maximum (Settings ---> Display ---> Watertexture)? Do you have DirectX 9? Check this first. Looking at your hardware I cannot imagine anything wrong with it.

Crash ;)

EDIT What package you download does not matter that much, they are more or like the same. Only small differences.

C.

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:27 am
by || Andy ||
EDIT What package you download does not matter that much, they are more or like the same. Only small differences.  


..urrr...
yes there is...
Bill lyons fs9wat.zip is a Lot different that morewatr.zip

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:47 am
by Carlo
Andy, you're probably right. I never saw a big difference in them though. It's more of what you like best I guess. Been using fs9wat.zip for a long time now.

Crash ;)

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:58 am
by Ecko
Okay Crash, I just installed morewatr.zip (again), but still no difference. ???

I check'd that the old water textures were overwritten, and I'm running with everything maxed out! Also water effects maxium.

I'm really clueless here... :(

By the way I'm running on a fairly old driver, nVidia ForceWare 66.93, since I experienced some problems on the newer ones.

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:08 am
by yancovitch
i can't even move water effects to max, as the game crashes. so i do without..
.p4  530 3.0 gz
1024 ram
msi nx 6600gt 128mb pci-x card

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:55 am
by Carlo
Ok, the driver could be the problem. You say you experienced problems with newer drivers. What kind of problems? I found this on Nvidia.com. It might help?

Following is found in FAQ's and Knowledgebase:

There are several factors that can contribute to system instability. Since the graphic card is always drawing to your screen, Windows will often report the graphics card or its drivers as the problematic device after a system error.  In most cases, the problem is caused by another device or component in your system such as the motherboard, system memory, power supply or hard drive. Here are some tips to help you troubleshoot your computer.

First check that your motherboard chipset drivers are up to date.  Since everything runs through your motherboard, the motherboard chipset drivers should be installed and up to date.  Otherwise, this can lead to system instability.  Here are the links to the most common motherboard chipset manufacturers:

ALI - www.ali.com.tw
AMD - www.amd.com
Intel - www.intel.com
NVIDIA - www.nvidia.com  (for nForce Platform Processor only)
SiS - www.sis.com
Via - www.viaarena.com

If you do not know who makes your motherboard chipset, please consult with your PC manufacturer or your motherboard manufacturer for more information.

The following motherboard BIOS settings are suggested for better stability, but are not required settings:

 Assign IRQ to VGA   Enabled
 VGA palettenooping  Disabled  
 PCI Latency Timer   128
 Video BIOS Shadowing  Disabled
 Video RAM Shadowing  Disabled
 USWC Options   Disabled
 PnP O/S Installed   Enabled
 Video BIOS Cacheable  Disabled
 Video RAM Cacheable  Disabled
 AGP Graphics Aperture  64MB (or half of your total system memory)


Incompatible system memory or bad system memory can also lead to system instability.  Please verify that your system memory has been tested and is compatible with your motherboard make and model.  There are 3rd party utilities which allow you to test the integrity of your system memory.  One such program is Memtest86 which is available as a free download from the following URL:

www.memtest86.com

Just as important is your CPU.  If it is malfunctioning, it will cause system instability.  There are 3rd party utilities to test your CPU.  One such utility is Prime95 which features a torture test which reports to you any errors generated by the CPU.  This utility may be downloaded from:

http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

If your NVIDIA Forceware display drivers are outdated, you may need to download and install the latest display drivers. You will find the latest Forceware unified display drivers for desktop graphic cards from our Software Downloads page at the following URL:

http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

From the Software Downloads page, choose "Graphics Driver" from the first box -? Choose "Geforce and TNT2" if you have a Geforce, Riva TNT2 or Vanta based graphics card. Choose Quadro if you have a Quadro based graphics card -> on the third box, choose the operating system you are using and then click the Go button.  This will take you to the driver downloads page for your graphics card.

If your video card features active cooling, check that the fan on the video card is spinning.  If it is not spinning, in particular when you are running a 3d application, then it can cause the video card to overheat.  Last but not least, verify that your system meets the full minimum system requirements provided by your video card manufacturer.


If these steps do not resolve the problem, please contact the manufacturer of your video card (please note that NVIDIA does not manufacture video cards. We only make video chips). If you received your video card as part of a computer purchase, please contact the manufacturer of your computer.

Please refer to our partner support list for further support (www.nvidia.com/page/partner_support.html).

Hopefully it is helpfull to you.

Crash ;)

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:58 pm
by Ecko
Thanks for all that information Crash, but I'm not a newb when it comes to hardware. I have an ASUS motherboard, wich uses the ViA Apollo PT880 chipset, and all my drivers are up to date.

But I think I have found the problem, cause an hour ago I installed FS9 on my old computer and tried the water effects, again NO water effects.

So the problem must be the game. And that could very well be, cause a year ago one of my friends borrowed the game and returned it totally scratched, in fact so scratched it didnt work. So the cheap-ass I am I downloaded the game, instead of buying a new one. :-[

But how do I then fix this ??? I guess I'll have to buy the game... :P

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:47 pm
by || Andy ||
So the cheap-ass I am I downloaded the game, instead of buying a new one.  :'(


Dont MS do a disk replacement thing... im sure ive read it somewhere..

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:07 pm
by JBaymore
So the cheap-ass I am I downloaded the game, instead of buying a new one.


If you have the original legal disks, contact Microsoft.

Even if your legal copy is screwed up... downloading the file is patently illegal.


best,

................john

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:49 pm
by Ecko
Okay, then I'll try to contact Microsoft..

Thanks guys!! ;D

Re: Water Enhancement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:09 pm
by yancovitch
and thanks also crash.....alot of yummy info for the less informed....am sure alot of other people will appreciate ir too.........cheers.